Hello All,
Though faithful to the Debian based distros, I could not help flirting with Fedora 7 which is being touted as a great distro.
It was the bootable DVD that came with July 2007 LFY. The hardware, Pentium-4 2.4 Ghz., Intel 845 GEBV2, 256 MB RAM, Samsung 80 GB IDE HDD, Sony DVD writer, Samsung CD writer.
The DVD cleared the media test and the installation began. When you come to the partitioning part, please note that like other distros it does not list choices in radio buttons or check boxes. It is a drop down list. I did not see the list and checked a manual option placed below. However the warning that my entire disk will be formatted saved me from a Himalayan blunder. The drop down list has the actual manual option. After that installation was smooth.
When it comes to the packages part, please select everything you want from the DVD in this step itself. I did not do that and found that the DVD repo is not added to the Yum package manager after installation. So everything selected later is downloaded from the net. By default, only Gnome is the installed desktop. Installation looked slower than Kubuntu, though the number of packages is similar. Fedora 1007, Kubuntu 950 approx.
Post installation was smooth too. The screen resolution was 1280 x 1024, a very nice thing. However it was switched manually to 1024 x 768 for easy reading. Sound setup comes up during first boot and you can play a test sound. The wallpaper is great. You are floating above the clouds with hot-air baloons around you.
The top panel bar does not have any applet enabled on it but you can add whatever you want manually by right clicking on the panel and selecting 'Add to panel'. I liked the 'Dictionary' utility very much. 'Eyeballs' are nice too and move as you move your mouse. Next to the date is the user's Name, which is handy for the boss to know who is logged into the desktop.
By default the user does not have sudoer rights so you need to open a terminal and 'su -' with the root password. Edit the file /etc/sudoers. In that file, go to the entry which mentions '## Allows people in group wheel to run all commands'. Uncheck the option below it. Keep the % sign. Then edit the file /etc/group. In the line containing the wheel group, after root, put a coma and add the user_name. This will make this user, a sudoer.
For multi-media codecs, go to http://fedoranews.org/cms/node/2853 and follow the instructions as given there. Copy the commands and directly paste them into a gui terminal using Shift + Insert. Please add sudo to the beginning of every command or do the whole exercise as root 'su -'. From that web page, please note that VLC player installation is optional and not necessary. The same is true for the installation of Amarock, as it is kde based and is a whopping 77 MB of download from the net, due to extra kde components.
It can play mpg, wmv, mp3, 3gp, dvds etc. DVD playback is good. However VCD playback is kinky and after a few seconds of video and sound, it crashes whatever player you use. I tried 3 and all crashed. Looks like the new kernels are not VCD friendly. I could not try the USB of the MTNL ADSL router as mine is a 4 port one without usb.
Overall a very good system and very pleasing to look at. I could not try out kde in it as it would have to be downloaded from the net. With latest hardware and more RAM, it should be a pleasure to work with.
So go ahead and try it out.
Regards,
Rony.
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Rony Bill wrote:
By default the user does not have sudoer rights so you need to open a terminal and 'su -' with the root password. Edit the file /etc/sudoers. In that file, go
/etc/sudoers clearly states that the file is not to be edited manually and to use the 'visudo' command. Read the visudo manual page to know why.
Vivek J. Patankar wrote:
Rony Bill wrote:
By default the user does not have sudoer rights so you need to open a terminal and 'su -' with the root password. Edit the file /etc/sudoers. In that file, go
/etc/sudoers clearly states that the file is not to be edited manually and to use the 'visudo' command. Read the visudo manual page to know why.
Thanks for the caution. I tried it out in Kubntu 6.10 but the vi is broken and I can't even exit without writing changes. 'Esc -> : -> q!' does not get registered. I remember, in Fedora-7 too, I could not use vi to edit some files and had to use nano.
vi is no longer functioning properly in newer distros, atleast on my system.
Rony wrote:
Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 15:37 +0530, Rony wrote:
vi is no longer functioning properly in newer distros, atleast on my system.
You want vim ( Enhanced ) and not vi.
vi is the link to vim.
But works perfectly fine for me. What exactly is the problem that you are facing?
Vivek J. Patankar wrote:
Rony wrote:
Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 15:37 +0530, Rony wrote:
vi is no longer functioning properly in newer distros, atleast on my system.
You want vim ( Enhanced ) and not vi.
vi is the link to vim.
But works perfectly fine for me. What exactly is the problem that you are facing?
It does not register the keys as they are. It goes haywire. I can't even exit.
--- Rony wrote:
It does not register the keys as they are. It goes haywire. I can't even exit.
Might be stupid to say this, but what do you key in to quit? (:q ?)
You can use (:q or :qa! - all changes lost).
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On Wednesday 25 Jul 2007 19:58:39 Rony wrote:
But works perfectly fine for me. What exactly is the problem that you are facing?
It does not register the keys as they are. It goes haywire. I can't even exit.
The one time that happened to me, I had accidentally turned on the itrans keymap in skim. So, whenever I typed in q, it took it to be क़् I guess vim doesn't recognise that ;)
Oh, I was using vim in konsole.
Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
On Wednesday 25 Jul 2007 19:58:39 Rony wrote:
But works perfectly fine for me. What exactly is the problem that you are facing?
It does not register the keys as they are. It goes haywire. I can't even exit.
The one time that happened to me, I had accidentally turned on the itrans keymap in skim. So, whenever I typed in q, it took it to be क़् I guess vim doesn't recognise that ;)
Oh, I was using vim in konsole.
The problem exists even in terminal.
Rony wrote:
Oh, I was using vim in konsole.
The problem exists even in terminal.
What version of vim are you using? If it the one than came out with the initial release? If yes, try updating to the latest release[1] (7.1.12-1.fc7).
[1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2007-July/msg00236.ht...
Vivek J. Patankar wrote:
Rony wrote:
Oh, I was using vim in konsole.
The problem exists even in terminal.
What version of vim are you using? If it the one than came out with the initial release? If yes, try updating to the latest release[1] (7.1.12-1.fc7).
[1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2007-July/msg00236.ht...
OK I will do that.
Vivek J. Patankar wrote:
Rony wrote:
Oh, I was using vim in konsole.
The problem exists even in terminal.
What version of vim are you using? If it the one than came out with the initial release? If yes, try updating to the latest release[1] (7.1.12-1.fc7).
[1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2007-July/msg00236.ht...
I did the update and strangely it works fine. I am not able to find any fault in it. However visudo and vipwd don't exist in FC7 in my installation. I may have to install them.
In Ubuntu 6.10 I noticed I had only vim-common installed. DJ had suggested adding vi enhanced and I did that too and now vi works fine in Ubuntu too. I was under the impression that vi became obsolete some years ago and vi was a link to vim. Thanks to you and DJ.
On Sun, 2007-07-29 at 10:28 +0530, Rony wrote:
In Ubuntu 6.10 I noticed I had only vim-common installed. DJ had suggested adding vi enhanced and I did that too and now vi works fine in Ubuntu too. I was under the impression that vi became obsolete some years ago and vi was a link to vim. Thanks to you and DJ.
vi is the vanilla "vi" while vi enhanced is for us losers who need the arrow keys to navigate :P
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 15:37 +0530, Rony wrote:
vi is no longer functioning properly in newer distros, atleast on my system.
You want vim ( Enhanced ) and not vi.
I had a related problem w/ Kubuntu 7.04. The distro ships w/ a stripped down version of vim. You have to later install vim (or vim-full I can't recall exactly).
regards,
Sharukh
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Rony Bill wrote:
The DVD cleared the media test and the installation began. When you come to the partitioning part, please note that like other distros it does not list choices in radio buttons or check boxes. It is a drop down list. I did not see the list and checked a manual option placed below. However the warning that my entire disk will be formatted saved me from a Himalayan blunder. The drop down list has the actual manual option. After that installation was smooth.
This would make for a nice Bugzilla.
The top panel bar does not have any applet enabled on it but you can add whatever you want manually by right clicking on the panel and selecting 'Add to panel'. I liked the 'Dictionary' utility very much. 'Eyeballs' are nice too and move as you move your mouse. Next to the date is the user's Name, which is handy for the boss to know who is logged into the desktop.
I believe that is the Fast User Switcher Applet. Do run smolt to capture your hardware profile, helps when filing bugs or even talking about issues related to hardware and the OS.
:Sankarshan
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