Hello All,
Thought of sharing this with all on the list. There's actually a course (a diploma course) that has a paper called "Fundamentals of Operating System - Linux OS", with GNU/Linux (or Linux based distro). So, there are course that have exposure to GNU/Linux (or Linux based distro). The course is called "Diploma
If any student, who is currently pursuing this course, please comment on this thread. I hope they are not using Redhat Linux 9.0 for demos ;)
Perhaps, there are a few more. I think, they should be aware of this list and join it. Attend GLUG-meets. If I recall, PGDIT (Post Graduate Diploma in Information Technology), is also one of them.
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--- Roshan wrote: (Edited version)
Hello All,
Thought of sharing this with all on the list. There's actually a course (a diploma course) that has a paper called "Fundamentals of Operating System - Linux OS", with GNU/Linux (or Linux based distro). So, there are courses that have exposure to GNU/Linux
(or
Linux based distros). The course is called "Diploma in Computer Programming"
And the link http://www.mu.ac.in/Department/udcs/Syllabus_DCP.htm
Ofcourse, as mentioned in one of the earlier BoF's, Elementary education needs to concentrate on logic and students would have to understand how to apply that.
As a student progresses, he would require a few special skills, and an OS like GNU/Linux (or Linux based distro) for System Administration would be good. Anyways, it need not limit to just a single OS. Similarly, programming paradigms are important as well.
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On 10/01/07, Roshan d_rosh2001@yahoo.co.in wrote:
Hello All,
Thought of sharing this with all on the list. There's actually a course (a diploma course) that has a paper called "Fundamentals of Operating System - Linux OS", with GNU/Linux (or Linux based distro).
there is a course called BSc.IT which has has a subject - operating systems and shell programming in the second year . 90% of the kids going through that have no idea of how to do anything except directory traversal and add 2 numbers with a shell program . Fortunately I am not one of the 90% . That's my take in the IT curriculum . The weird part is these people end up topping the class by mugging up . . I am sure their Employers will be pretty pleased with them :P
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On 1/10/07, francis pereira mail.francispereira@gmail.com wrote:
there is a course called BSc.IT which has has a subject - operating systems and shell programming in the second year . 90% of the kids going through that have no idea of how to do anything except directory traversal and add 2 numbers with a shell program . Fortunately I am
BSc Computer Science has (atleast had during my days 4 years ago) a paper called "Linux Operating System". Abhijeet (Utopia Unltd) was our teacher and he had arranged for the first (and last?) GLUG meet in Ruparel College.
But yes, apart from me, none of the class of 24 even ventured near the OS and simply mugged up the commands and passed with flying colours.
The course is not much of a problem really; it's the way it is executed and evaluated that is faulty.
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The course is not much of a problem really; it's the way it is executed and evaluated that is faulty.
This is so true. It's the way things are taught. It's like word of mouth marketing. If you really like it you would not just teach it for money but would like to talk about it anyways ...
Sachin G.
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 21:24, francis pereira wrote:
On 10/01/07, Roshan d_rosh2001@yahoo.co.in wrote:
Hello All,
Thought of sharing this with all on the list. There's actually a course (a diploma course) that has a paper called "Fundamentals of Operating System - Linux OS", with GNU/Linux (or Linux based distro).
there is a course called BSc.IT which has has a subject - operating systems and shell programming in the second year .
There was some CS related subject in the final year of BSc Physics as well. The theory paper asked a major question on Linux and the practicals had a choice between Linux and MS Access. I taught Linux to a friend. He found it so great that not only did he study well himself, he also went on to teach it another friend of ours and told him to take the test on Linux instead of Access. I believe all the rest took up Access. The good thing though, is that the college provided the computer with Linux for just one student in the entire batch, instead of forcing him to do Access, just because everyone else had taken up Access.
On Thursday 11 January 2007 05:55, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
rest took up Access. The good thing though, is that the college provided the computer with Linux for just one student in the entire batch, instead of forcing him to do Access, just because everyone else had taken up Access.
I'm impressed. And which college might that be?
On Thursday 11 January 2007 14:28, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Thursday 11 January 2007 05:55, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
rest took up Access. The good thing though, is that the college provided the computer with Linux for just one student in the entire batch, instead of forcing him to do Access, just because everyone else had taken up Access.
I'm impressed. And which college might that be?
Kelkar Education Trust's Vinayak Ganesh Vaze College, located in Mulund (East). Better known as Kelkar College.
--- francis pereira wrote:
there is a course called BSc.IT which has has a subject - operating systems and shell programming in the second year .
Operating Systems is in the fourth Semester of second year and Systems Programming (which should have been Learning UNIX) is in the third semester. Shell programming and a huge list of UNIX commands are taught in Systems Programming.
90% of the kids going through that have no idea of how to do anything except directory traversal and add 2 numbers with a shell program .
I guess, if they know to use commands to traverse directories and add two numbers with a shell program, they can always improve their skills.
Fortunately I am not one of the 90% . That's my take in the IT curriculum . The weird part is these people end up topping the class by mugging up . . I am sure their Employers will be pretty pleased with them :P
Agreed.
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please comment on this thread. I hope they are not using Redhat Linux 9.0 for demos ;)
i think they use debain. dr nagarjun was taking the class there if i m correct. ( this info is dated april 05 )
HRB
On 10-Jan-07, at 11:00 PM, Harsh Busa wrote:
using Redhat Linux 9.0 for demos ;)
i think they use debain. dr nagarjun was taking the class there if i m correct. ( this info is dated april 05 )
anurag is taking the class afaik
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 20:47, Roshan wrote:
Hello All,
Thought of sharing this with all on the list. There's actually a course (a diploma course) that has a paper called "Fundamentals of Operating System - Linux OS", with GNU/Linux (or Linux based distro). So, there are course that have exposure to GNU/Linux (or Linux based distro). The course is called "Diploma
If any student, who is currently pursuing this course, please comment on this thread. I hope they are not using Redhat Linux 9.0 for demos ;)
Its not surprising. This is inevitable. Linux ( or GNU/Linux. I dont want to displease anybody =P ) has become an indispensable part of our lives. Take the example of our college. Suddenly everyone who is going out for MS or those who are going to take up jobs are becoming "aware" of the lack of Linux skills on their resumes ;) I've already gotten 5-6 requests for reference material to "study" Linux. I've already distributed many Ubuntu CDs amongst my friends =P
Also, there are many courses in MU ( not just Engg but also BSc IT, MSc IT, Diplomas etc... ) which teach UNIX. But very few colleges actually have funds, faculty and most importantly the inclination to purchase licensed version of UNIX and so the students end up getting familiar / using Linux and that too Redhat or Mandrake =)
Look out world, here comes the humble tux! =)
--- Dinesh Joshi wrote:
Also, there are many courses in MU ( not just Engg but also BSc IT, MSc IT, Diplomas etc... ) which teach UNIX.
MSc (I. T.) or MSc (C.S.) does not have any papers related to UNIX. (Instead we (most UGC colleges) are still using Turbo C++ 3.0 IDE for C/C++)
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Sometime on Wednesday 10 January 2007 20:47, Roshan said:
please comment on this thread. I hope they are not using Redhat Linux 9.0 for demos ;)
They use latest Ubuntu release which is available around June.
Perhaps, there are a few more. I think, they should be aware of this list and join it. Attend GLUG-meets. If I recall, PGDIT (Post Graduate Diploma in Information Technology), is also one of them.
Many of them hang around on ubuntu-in irc channel and couple of them did attend last glug meet.
Anurag
hello all of you i am abhishek. student of PGDIT University of Mumbai. we are glad to have nice faculty for teaching GNU/Linux like Dr.Nagarjuna G and Mr.Anurag Patel. i started enjoying linux because of them. using windows for now i want to build my carrer in GNU/Linux only. well i want 100 marks examination for Linux and not 50 marks. :-) we use ubuntu dapper 6.06 now a days in our labs. but at home i am using Debian Sarge 3.1 stable. Thanks You!
now i want to build my carrer in GNU/Linux only. well i want 100 marks examination for Linux and not 50 marks. :-)
I think the biggest mark you get in the long run will be when you learn enough in your chosen field to command your price. Be it Linux or windows or any field. just my HO :)
Sachin G.
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