Hi, I've been eager to try out Linux for a while, but never could as I just couldnt figure out the partitioning requirements. This is where I've always got stuck & given up a on Linux installation. I've got CDs of Knoppix 3.1, PCQLinux 8.0 & ELX 2.0, but I could never get past the partitioning stage with any of them. Also all published articles on installing these packages barely have a sentence relating to partitioning, which has added to the frustation.
To describe my challenge simply, I have Windows C:,D:,E; & F: . F: is 11Gb, & all I want to do is to simply use this space & partition for Linux & Swap. Is that so difficult? Is it possible to get some guidance in simple English on how to do this. I need a "Select this then click on that & then click OK" kind of guidance, such as which Windows has (BTW why is Linux so much harder to install than Windows. Is Windows smarter?)Ooops, *now* I've done it!.
Can any one clear the mist for me ? I'm sure no one else has has these questions!
Thanks, --Royce.
Have you tried looking at the Red Hat installation manual? If you don't know how to get there here is a link: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/install-guide/s1-d iskpartitioning.html
Be sure to read everything including in the Appendices mentioned. That should give you an idea (with diagrams) on how to partition.
I personally used RH8 & RH9 with the same partitioning scheme. My 256MB RAM m/c with the spare 8 GB distributed over 2 HDDs is divided into 512 MB <swap>, 2 GB for / file system, 3 GB each for /home & /var file systems.
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Hi,
I am installing Red hat 8.0 on my machine. After initializing keyboard/mouse, when it reaches partition window, Installation process throws a message saying...
"LINUX has read BIOS geometry incorrectly ...... LBA is preferred".
I ignored this warning and partitioned the HDD. but when package installation started , it again gave me an error,
"Can not format or create swap partition, This error is critical. Reboot now".
Next time when I did FDISK, it gave me an error "Write protect error writing fixed disk."
Whenever I create any partition using fdisk, created partition is always NON-DOS.
Is this problem with my HDD ? Initially I had win2K on this HDD , most of the time BIOS was not detecting boot record of win2K. After 4/5 hard reboot , it used to start properly.
Richard
Hi, I've been eager to try out Linux for a while, but never could as I just couldnt figure out the partitioning requirements. This is where I've always
I can guide you with redhat installation may be others are similar. 1)Boot from Your CD (I hope you know this) 2)press enter when asked to enter something (this is for graphical installation) 3)Keep pressing next,linux will detect all your hardware(if you don't use something very rare) 4)When choosing install Type ..Choose Custom. 5)NEXT with the partition,choose Option No. 2 (if i remember right) i.e Manually Partition with Disk Druid. 6)From manythings you must be seeing thee is agraph at the Top and a tree listing of your parttions at the bottom. 7)You need to find your F:,i guess it will be the last one ,just the one with 11GB size 8)Select it and delete the partition. 9)Click New 9)Choose /boot ext3 type in space type 100or200or300 MB,though more than enough 10)Make swap partition with 2 * ram size. 11)Make / partition with Fill up to maximumsize option. 12)Click Next 13)Select Full Installation while selecting packages 14)Make Grub as your Primary boot loader 15)The watch linux getting installed. 16)Next everything is self explanatory.
Note:-i don't remember but /boot should be from 1-1024 cylinder range so this might cause the problem,may be someone could guide you here.
got stuck & given up a on Linux installation. I've got CDs of Knoppix 3.1,
:(
PCQLinux 8.0 & ELX 2.0, but I could never get past the partitioning stage with any of them. Also all published articles on installing these packages barely have a sentence relating to partitioning, which has added to the frustation.
Try refining your search with some of the terms i mentioned
To describe my challenge simply, I have Windows C:,D:,E; & F: . F: is 11Gb, & all I want to do is to simply use this space & partition for Linux & Swap. Is that so difficult? Is it possible to get some guidance in simple English on how to do this. I need a "Select this then click on that & then click OK" kind of guidance, such as which Windows has (BTW why is Linux so much harder to install than Windows. Is Windows smarter?)Ooops, *now* I've done
No ways,Does windows allows you to install itself on a Completely Linux installed machine,never its beyond its scope,but linux do :).Try installing linux on the complete harddisk without partitioning its more simpler than windows atleast it tells you what its doing. :)
it!.
Can any one clear the mist for me ? I'm sure no one else has has these questions!
The best way to learn wd be playing with your system,i guess you fear loosing windows,first time when i tried to install i lost 20GB to linux,without linux getting installed,for complete 1 month.
Thanks, --Royce.
harsh wrote:
9)Choose /boot ext3 type in space type 100or200or300 MB,though more than enough 10)Make swap partition with 2 * ram size. 11)Make / partition with Fill up to maximumsize option.
/boot - 50MB (more than enough) swap - 128M(again more than enough assuming you have 256M or more of RAM), the 2*RAM rule was written in the howtos in say 1997-8 when people used 16M-32M RAM
12)Click Next 13)Select Full Installation while selecting packages 14)Make Grub as your Primary boot loader 15)The watch linux getting installed. 16)Next everything is self explanatory.
Note:-i don't remember but /boot should be from 1-1024 cylinder range so this might cause the problem,may be someone could guide you here.
That was a problem with old BIOSes....Grub has no probs booting from post 1024cylinders...., neither do new versions of lilo. FWIW, try using the "lba32" option if you use lilo..
got stuck & given up a on Linux installation. I've got CDs of Knoppix 3.1, :( PCQLinux 8.0 & ELX 2.0, but I could never get past the partitioning stage with any of them. Also all published articles on installing these packages barely have a sentence relating to partitioning, which has added to the frustation.
People writing HOWTOs usually assume that partitioning is something that the user has to learn. For some decent tutorials on partition, try the XOSL/Ranish partition manager page, its http://www.ranish.com (IIRC), and this page has a nice free partitioner...boot from a floppy and partition your hard disk...Better read up on the docs at the above site in the first place.
Swap. Is that so difficult? Is it possible to get some guidance in simple English on how to do this. I need a "Select this then click on that & then click OK" kind of guidance, such as which Windows has (BTW why is Linux so much harder to install than Windows. Is Windows smarter?)Ooops, *now*
Fortunately or unfortunately, the installer for msot distros is not very much like what you are asking for, though you might want to check out the latest Mandrake and SuSE...(suse is more eccentric as a distro though).
harsh wrote:
9)Choose /boot ext3 type in space type 100or200or300 MB,though more than enough 10)Make swap partition with 2 * ram size. 11)Make / partition with Fill up to maximumsize option.
/boot - 50MB (more than enough) swap - 128M(again more than enough assuming you have 256M or more of RAM), the 2*RAM rule was written in the howtos in say 1997-8 when people used 16M-32M RAM
Thanks..(knowledge++)
12)Click Next 13)Select Full Installation while selecting packages 14)Make Grub as your Primary boot loader 15)The watch linux getting installed. 16)Next everything is self explanatory.
Note:-i don't remember but /boot should be from 1-1024 cylinder range so this might cause the problem,may be someone could guide you here.
That was a problem with old BIOSes....Grub has no probs booting from post 1024cylinders...., neither do new versions of lilo. FWIW, try using the "lba32" option if you use lilo..
got stuck & given up a on Linux installation. I've got CDs of Knoppix 3.1, :( PCQLinux 8.0 & ELX 2.0, but I could never get past the partitioning stage with any of them. Also all published articles on installing these packages barely have a sentence relating to partitioning, which has added to the frustation.
People writing HOWTOs usually assume that partitioning is something that the user has to learn. For some decent tutorials on partition, try the XOSL/Ranish partition manager page, its http://www.ranish.com (IIRC), and this page has a nice free partitioner...boot from a floppy and partition your hard disk...Better read up on the docs at the above site in the first place.
Swap. Is that so difficult? Is it possible to get some guidance in simple English on how to do this. I need a "Select this then click on that & then click OK" kind of guidance, such as which Windows has (BTW why is Linux so much harder to install than Windows. Is Windows smarter?)Ooops, *now*
Fortunately or unfortunately, the installer for msot distros is not very much like what you are asking for, though you might want to check out the latest Mandrake and SuSE...(suse is more eccentric as a distro though).
At 01:23 morn 5/27/03 +0530, Royce wrote:
Hi, I've been eager to try out Linux for a while, but never could as I just couldnt figure out the partitioning requirements. This is where I've always got stuck & given up a on Linux installation. I've got CDs of Knoppix 3.1, PCQLinux 8.0 & ELX 2.0, but I could never get past the partitioning stage with any of them. Also all published articles on installing these packages barely have a sentence relating to partitioning, which has added to the frustation.
Time to end the frustration. Use fdisk. type fdsisk /dev/hda, 'm'. Partitioning is easy. Dont worry if you loose your data a couple of time .. ;) happens all the time ... We live, We learn.
To describe my challenge simply, I have Windows C:,D:,E; & F: . F: is 11Gb, & all I want to do is to simply use this space & partition for Linux & Swap. Is that so difficult?
Nope. It is very easy. Using fdisk, just delete partition F. Before that you will have to learn a bit about the partition naming scheme in GNU/Linux. But you should be able to recognise that partition by the size .. after you have done that .. just creat 2 new partitions in that space.
steps ----- delete the end partition create a small 2-3 hundred partition change partition id to swap create a partition in the rest of the space write to disk
Is it possible to get some guidance in simple English on how to do this. I need a "Select this then click on that & then click OK" kind of guidance, such as which Windows has (BTW why is Linux so much harder to install than Windows. Is Windows smarter?)Ooops, *now* I've done it!.
If you want to install GNU/Linux on a blank HDD they you will find it easier. GNU/Linux is like a racing car -- Ferrari. More Power. Takes you to the Edge. Requires a little more effort to keep running and driving. M$ is a Maruti 800. Sabe?
Can any one clear the mist for me ? I'm sure no one else has has these questions!
dont worry -- lots do!
q
considering ur knowledge of linux is fairly less.. I suggest you try Mandrake Linux the installation is fairly simple it also features an "easy-to-use" graphical partitioning system in the installer which guesses the windows drive-letters so you shouldn't face any problems pin-pointing your F: drive, if you still feel scared about partitioning boot the cd into expert mode and install linux on a "loopback" filesystem which will create a large file on your computer which will act as a linux filesystem so you can get away with partitioning bit... i found some problems with mandrake 9.1 install in expert mode.. so i suggest you stick with 9.0 if u wanna install it on loopback-fs
Regards Pranav
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On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 01:23:49AM +0530, Royce & Sharal Pereira wrote:
I've been eager to try out Linux for a while, but never could as I just couldnt figure out the partitioning requirements.
What is it that you could not figure out? Partitioning is one of the simplest things that a person can do on her computer. In your case, its as simple as deleting F: from windows and then proceeding with the installation.
To describe my challenge simply, I have Windows C:,D:,E; & F: . F: is 11Gb, & all I want to do is to simply use this space & partition for Linux & Swap. Is that so difficult? Is it possible to get some guidance in simple English on how to do this. I need a "Select this then click on that & then click OK"
If you want point-and-click guides at this stage of installing GNU/Linux, all the best to you when you start using it! Tell us what exactly have you tried and what part stumps you ...
Sameer.
Hi,
Also all published articles on installing these packages barely have a sentence relating to partitioning, which has added to the frustation.
This is so b'cause Partitioning is very specific to the system and the user. Hence usually people do not specify a partitioning scheme.
To describe my challenge simply, I have Windows C:,D:,E; & F: . F: is 11Gb, & all I want to do is to simply use this space & partition for Linux & Swap. Is that so difficult? Is it possible to get some guidance in simple English on how to do this. I need a "Select this then click on that & then click OK" kind of guidance, such as which Windows has (BTW why is Linux so much harder to install than Windows. Is Windows smarter?)Ooops, *now* I've done it!.
Installtion instructions that I have attached to this email are for Knoppix 3.2 But I am sure they will work for Knoppix 3.1 also.
And while installing knoppix you will realise that Installing Linux is hardly any difficult than Window$
This document is helpfull to you.
Shashank
Hi
Read your mail and all the messages that followed. Unlike most of the others who have replied, I agree with you that partitioning is a very difficult job (at least for the first few times) and highly dangerous. Dangerous because few of us like to or can afford to loose data by wrong partitioning commands. I have made major blunders in the initial period and lost massive data (some of which were backed up luckily). I have also actually had to discard some HDDs (though the dealer told me that it was just a coincidence that it happened when I was installing Linux).
I had lots of difficulty in installing linux earlier mainly because of partitioning problems. However, either because I have got the hang of things or because partioning tools have improved, I have no problems now. However, it is not something than can be put in bullet or numbered form and you follow because each distro has a slightly different interface for partioning software and a wrong step or command would invite disaster for the remaining software and OS on your system.
If you stay at or near andheri, I can help you by coming over to your place and showing you how the partioning is done. Unfortunately, I will be out of town from May 31 to June 7........If you dont solve it by then, let me know.
Regards Saswata
----- Original Message ----- From: "Royce & Sharal Pereira" bethell@eth.net To: "ILUG-Bom" linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:23 AM Subject: [ILUG-BOM] How to partition?
Hi, I've been eager to try out Linux for a while, but never could as I just couldnt figure out the partitioning requirements. This is where I've
always
got stuck & given up a on Linux installation. I've got CDs of Knoppix
3.1,
PCQLinux 8.0 & ELX 2.0, but I could never get past the partitioning stage with any of them. Also all published articles on installing these packages barely have a sentence relating to partitioning, which has added to the frustation.
To describe my challenge simply, I have Windows C:,D:,E; & F: . F: is
11Gb,
& all I want to do is to simply use this space & partition for Linux &
Swap.
Is that so difficult? Is it possible to get some guidance in simple
English
on how to do this. I need a "Select this then click on that & then click
OK"
kind of guidance, such as which Windows has (BTW why is Linux so much harder to install than Windows. Is Windows smarter?)Ooops, *now* I've done it!.
Can any one clear the mist for me ? I'm sure no one else has has these questions!
Thanks, --Royce.
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