hello roni and other list members following this thread. here are my comments on the last few emails. firstly I am not bashing windows. when reality speaks there is no need of bashing. facts are facts and I only speak on personal experiences both on my own experiences and those clients for whom I have worked. and even I am not saying any thing while dreaming. the only reason my personal business grew was do to the fact that I took away my clients from all the windows rubbish and when they find that their work is happening smoothly with no frequent crashes and no virus attacks and no "on the spot failures with no reason ". they are naturally happy. even I know tricks and techniques and I do know that windows also needs a lot of tweeking for making it work "some what better ". so even windows does not always work out of the box. and yes the problems are many a times third party softwares running on windows. but I personally and professionally don't trust any non free close source software. no matter what, even after tweeking software and doing what not, it still can't be predicted under windows. so I don't want to cheet my customers by giving some thing which is so uncertain. and one last advice before I close on this one. "some thing which is good might become popular but all that is popular is not necessarily good ". if this was not true then pepsi and coke must be the best things in the world. no I don't want to say that pepsi or coke has any helth problems and I think it is even helthy and I believe that it is a best thing every one must consume because it is "popular". even I am not exhagrating. my customers use gnu/linux desktops and most are not at all programmers and no way close to be called "do it your self ". so if JTD or any one's statements are being termed extreme, then ranting about some software and saying that it is no where close to be professionally ready and with lot of buggs (which windows don't have at all ) is some thing where I really find nothing but a good food to create a joke. and as JTD and a few others have told about their personal experiences and if very professional organisations are using gnu/linux, one should not make a fool of himself and also not mis guide new comers to gnu/linux. I have started a process to actually get those professional users to also going the mailing list and give their testimonies but I don't know whether anurag will like it as an admin of this list *smile*. so roni and the rest, this is my ernest request, "please take time before passing extremly mis guiding statements, because, extreme statements will invite equal and opposit reaction ". regards, Krishnakant.