Hi,
I am currently undergoing training for my company in Coimbatore. We have many courses to complete in the two month period, one of them labeled as "Linux". That course happened yesterday.
It was something really new for me as I got to know some very new things about GNU/Linux Systems:
=> Stallman and Linus came together to make Linux => Linus was developing on Minix and then he had an idea to create Linux, which he shared with others on a mailing list and all of them started working on Linux together (rather than him announcing the first prototype on usenet). => The default Linux installation is as a server attached to dumb terminals. => The shell, etc for Linux was created after the kernel. => The default is only console. If you want GUI with Unix, you need to *buy* X-Windows. => symlinks are exactly like windows shortcuts
and much more.
My point is not to make fun of the professor as I believe many do not really even make an attempt to understand the history of anything, leave alone GNU/Linux. That said, trainers and teachers should be fairly accurate in all that they give to their audience.
All I said above doesn't simply apply to the trainer I experienced yesterday. Everyone using GNU/Linux in the mainstream only know that they're using "Linux" and that it's simply another Unix that can be only used in servers. It actually reminds me of a comment by a very senior person in my firm -- "Linux? Why? Doesn't it require, like, expensive hardware or something?"
Is it possible for FSF to take some initiative in starting a Training Certification program which will ensure that the trainers themselves are well trained? FSF would be the best choice to design such a course as it would more or less ensure that the trainer training is not Distro-centric.
I understand deficiency of funds would be the first problem though.
Regards, Siddhesh PS: Please don't ask or guess the company name here; I don't want that to be publicized on list.
Hi Siddhesh,
My thoughts below:
--- Siddhesh Poyarekar siddhesh.poyarekar@gmail.com wrote:
That said, trainers and teachers should be fairly accurate in all that they give to their audience.
How did your company choose such a training session?
Is it possible for FSF to take some initiative in starting a Training Certification program which will ensure that the trainers themselves are well trained?
Personally, I don't believe in certifications.
"Who certifies the trainer?"
PS: Please don't ask or guess the company name here; I don't want that to be publicized on list.
Aren't you making a mistake? This community is about sharing knowledge and by not publicizing it, you are making more people vulnerable to attend the company's training sessions.
SK
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On Sunday 10 September 2006 07:42, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
=> Stallman and Linus came together to make Linux => Linus was developing on Minix and then he had an idea to create Linux, which he shared with others on a mailing list and all of them started working on Linux together (rather than him announcing the first prototype on usenet). => The default Linux installation is as a server attached to dumb terminals. => The shell, etc for Linux was created after the kernel. => The default is only console. If you want GUI with Unix, you need to *buy* X-Windows. => symlinks are exactly like windows shortcuts
and much more.
Add to that "Hackers are criminals" :) This was what was said at an inauguration ceremony by an imminent personality from CSI. Hes ex-something of CSI. I was going to post about it on this list but saved it in my drafts folder since I dont have his exact name and qualification.
Stallman, Torvalds and the rest are all criminals. Lock them up and throw away the keys! I really dont get it what these people think of themselves when they make such blunt statements! Does he even know the meaning of what a hacker is? Apparently not :/
My point is not to make fun of the professor as I believe many do not really even make an attempt to understand the history of anything,
haha...may be we should invite him/her to the next lug meet and flame them. :)
leave alone GNU/Linux. That said, trainers and teachers should be fairly accurate in all that they give to their audience.
Yes, thats why we should ridicule / embarrass / boo them so next time they check their "facts" 1 trillion times ( or more ) before they feed it to their audience!
Just kidding about the flaming part.... ;)
On Sunday 10 September 2006 01:12 pm, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
Hi,
I am currently undergoing training for my company in Coimbatore. We have many courses to complete in the two month period, one of them labeled as "Linux". That course happened yesterday.
I suppose somebody paid for the "training". So let that somebody know about the wasted money. Also u shoud take over the training and start a "get the facts right" presentation with an offer to train the trainers ;-).
On 11-Sep-06, at 10:23 AM, jtd wrote:
I am currently undergoing training for my company in Coimbatore. We have many courses to complete in the two month period, one of them labeled as "Linux". That course happened yesterday.
I suppose somebody paid for the "training". So let that somebody know about the wasted money. Also u shoud take over the training and start a "get the facts right" presentation with an offer to train the trainers ;-).
not strictly on topic, but most company training programs are hogwash. It is just a perk. Or a ritual. Or a paid holiday. I thought this was only in India, but some friends of mine in oz were saying the same thing. There are people who are professional 'trainers' who setup the show and engage people who are supposed to have 'domain knowledge'. The whole thing is overpriced and usualy worthless.
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