Hi,
Having faith in GNU/Linux..I am not willing to use Windows on my new purcahaes of laptops preloaded this OS. Like Europe, could it be possible for India to get money back by freeing ourself from the Windows tax by returning unused Windows license on new purchase of laptop/PC?
Please read this.. http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/01/03/227237
Awaiting your comment.
Cheers!
Sometime on Jan 6, NA cobbled together some glyphs to say:
Having faith in GNU/Linux..I am not willing to use Windows on my new purcahaes of laptops preloaded this OS. Like Europe, could it be possible for India to get money back by freeing ourself from the Windows tax by returning unused Windows license on new purchase of laptop/PC?
This has been covered before on this list. Just tell your laptop dealer to give you the laptop with no OS and to reduce the cost. One of my friends did that in Bangalore and he got an IBM thinkpad with no OS on it.
On 1/7/07, Philip Tellis philip.tellis@gmx.net wrote:
Sometime on Jan 6, NA cobbled together some glyphs to say:
Having faith in GNU/Linux..I am not willing to use Windows on my new purcahaes of laptops preloaded this OS. Like Europe, could it be possible for India to get money back by freeing ourself from the Windows tax by returning unused Windows license on new purchase of laptop/PC?
This has been covered before on this list. Just tell your laptop dealer to give you the laptop with no OS and to reduce the cost. One of my friends did that in Bangalore and he got an IBM thinkpad with no OS on it.
When i asked the toshiba guys to give me the laptop minus windows they plainly refused. It seems toshiba recommends only windows. :(
On Sunday 07 January 2007 19:53, आनंद (Anand M R) wrote:
When i asked the toshiba guys to give me the laptop minus windows they plainly refused. It seems toshiba recommends only windows. :(
Dell generally honours such requests. You can buy the laptop with Windows and when you first turn it on, you can refuse the EULA and contact the vendor ( Toshiba ) and tell them that you want a refund. They can't refuse. If they do, you can take them to the consumer court I guess...
On 07/01/07 20:44 +0530, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Sunday 07 January 2007 19:53, ???????????? (Anand M R) wrote:
When i asked the toshiba guys to give me the laptop minus windows they plainly refused. It seems toshiba recommends only windows. :(
Dell generally honours such requests. You can buy the laptop with Windows and when you first turn it on, you can refuse the EULA and contact the vendor ( Toshiba ) and tell them that you want a refund. They can't refuse. If they do, you can take them to the consumer court I guess...
Toshiba sells the software+hardware as a bundle, they aren't separate components. The only option for a refund is to return that laptop.
Devdas Bhagat
On Sunday 07 January 2007 21:49, Devdas Bhagat wrote:
On 07/01/07 20:44 +0530, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
Dell generally honours such requests. You can buy the laptop with Windows and when you first turn it on, you can refuse the EULA and contact the vendor ( Toshiba ) and tell them that you want a refund. They can't refuse. If they do, you can take them to the consumer court I guess...
Toshiba sells the software+hardware as a bundle, they aren't separate components. The only option for a refund is to return that laptop.
Nope. You can REFUSE the EULA when you first turn on the laptop. Refusing the EULA means you have NOT used M$ Windows and thus you can claim the refund. I am 100% sure of it. This is the only way you can get a refund on preloaded laptops...
On 07/01/07 22:11 +0530, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Sunday 07 January 2007 21:49, Devdas Bhagat wrote:
On 07/01/07 20:44 +0530, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
Dell generally honours such requests. You can buy the laptop with Windows and when you first turn it on, you can refuse the EULA and contact the vendor ( Toshiba ) and tell them that you want a refund. They can't refuse. If they do, you can take them to the consumer court I guess...
Toshiba sells the software+hardware as a bundle, they aren't separate components. The only option for a refund is to return that laptop.
Nope. You can REFUSE the EULA when you first turn on the laptop. Refusing the EULA means you have NOT used M$ Windows and thus you can claim the refund. I am 100% sure of it. This is the only way you can get a refund on preloaded laptops...
The point is, Toshiba does NOT treat the OS as separate from the hardware. You cannot get a refund on one _part_.
Devdas Bhagat
On Sunday 07 January 2007 22:20, Devdas Bhagat wrote:
The point is, Toshiba does NOT treat the OS as separate from the hardware. You cannot get a refund on one _part_.
None of the vendors do that generally. Most of the low level execs aren't even aware of the fact that one can refuse the EULA and ask for the refund.
Here, read about this case involving Toshiba and a Redhat Linux user.
http://www.netcraft.com.au/geoffrey/toshiba.html
Its pretty old but if that guy could get a refund on the _bundled_ OS from Toshiba in 1998 then I guess in 2007 ( almost 10 years later ) we can get the refund from Toshiba in India. I know its never easy but we have to fight for it or atleast try it? If I knew this 3 years ago when I purchased my laptop, I would've definitely asked for no OS to be loaded. It would've saved me some money :P
This is a nice write up on how to get a refund amicably from any computer vendor who sells machines with Windoze bundled:
http://community.linux.com/community/07/01/03/227237.shtml?tid=12
Cheers!
Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Sunday 07 January 2007 22:20, Devdas Bhagat wrote:
The point is, Toshiba does NOT treat the OS as separate from the hardware. You cannot get a refund on one _part_.
None of the vendors do that generally. Most of the low level execs aren't even aware of the fact that one can refuse the EULA and ask for the refund.
Many lappys are available without OS or with Linux that has 'limited functionality'. Acer and Lenovo both are available without windows, atleast in the middle and lower end machines. Even if you get a discount on the pre-loaded OS, you cannot claim that it should be the same as market value. The best punishment for such companies is don't buy them.
Regards,
Rony. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
hey, just chk this out this guy frm uk has got a refund frm acer. http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=139627
The point is, Toshiba does NOT treat the OS as separate from the hardware. You cannot get a refund on one _part_.
he makes a counter argument for the same.....
Devdas Bhagat
2007/1/8, PV Sundarram pvsundarram@gmail.com:
hey, just chk this out this guy frm uk has got a refund frm acer. http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=139627
This was an excellent discussion. It is interesting to learn how many laws they throw to the dust bin and go uncaught. Great to see someone fighting, and winning.
Cheers Praveen
On Sunday 07 January 2007 22:11, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Sunday 07 January 2007 21:49, Devdas Bhagat wrote:
On 07/01/07 20:44 +0530, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
Dell generally honours such requests. You can buy the laptop with Windows and when you first turn it on, you can refuse the EULA and contact the vendor ( Toshiba ) and tell them that you want a refund. They can't refuse. If they do, you can take them to the consumer court I guess...
Toshiba sells the software+hardware as a bundle, they aren't separate components. The only option for a refund is to return that laptop.
Nope. You can REFUSE the EULA when you first turn on the laptop. Refusing the EULA means you have NOT used M$ Windows and thus you can claim the refund. I am 100% sure of it. This is the only way you can get a refund on preloaded laptops...
Only if there is some sort of legal treaty btwn India and US. There is one btwn US and AU. So judgements in the US are valid in AU. Someone will have to file a PIL in India to get clarity on the issue. Also bulk buyers of hardware and software get different price terms, since the M$ covers the customer with an enterprise licence.
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