Linuxers November 2002

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] HappyDiwali thanx to BILL to bill in BusinessWorld
by quasar＠vsnl.net 06 Nov '02

06 Nov '02

scrap(a)saswatabanerjee.com wrote >A point here is [...] > [...a long discourse...] > willing to provide support at a reasonable cost. ? what exactly did you say different from what I said except for the obviously large difference in number of words used...?

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] LUG MEET coming Sunday at 4:30
by Nikhil Kale 06 Nov '02

06 Nov '02

where's HBCSE???? Could you provide the full address? Thanks, Nikhil ----- Original Message ----- From: Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 00:51:33 -0800 (PST) To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: [ILUG-BOM] LUG MEET coming Sunday at 4:30 > > > Hello Luggers...;) > > good to see a lot of activity. All of us are happy > about the same. > > We are scheduling a meeting Coming Sunday at 4:30PM > SHARP at HBCSE. The meeting will wind up by 6:30PM. > > >> AGENDA << > > --> Opening Talk will be by Sandeep on "Licensing > Issues and Clarification on Licensing models" > > Sandeep currently working with us towards building > an Open Developers Network around the Country is also > doing his M.A. in philosophy from the University of > Bombay. > > He will cover the various most commonn licensing > models availble to us on Free Software and Open Source > and throw light on the ambiguity people have on them. > So....those of you who have been part of M$ FUD > campaign.......better rope yourselves into this > meeting and be there to have a much more CLEAR IDEA ON > WHAT WE ALL STAND FOR. > > --> Any other Speakers...??? Post your topics please. > > Bye for now and have a nice day. > > Trevor > > > > > > ===== > ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) > /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ > | \) / mailto: trevor.w(a)media.mit.edu \ (/ | > |_|_ \ Research Asst, MediaLab / _|_| > \___________________________________/ > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > Nikhil Kale Software Engineer. Mahindra British Telecom Ltd. Mobile No: +919821228022 -- Powered by Outblaze

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Access control on a cvs server????
by Sankha Subhra Som 06 Nov '02

06 Nov '02

Hi, I have configured a CVS server(with password authentication using pserver). Is there any decent way of performing access control? I have a repository $CVSROOT/dir1/ within dir1 i have several directories. i want to restrict the users on a per directory basis. How do i do this? Sankha -- SANKHA SUBHRA SOM ATC - BIOINFORMATICS TCS KLK BUILDING. HYDERABAD-1 Ph:(040)6787980-1024 ******************************************************** An anonymous digitoid ******************************************************** Though I can make my extravaganzas appear credible, I cannot make the truth appear so.

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Re: Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] HappyDiwali thanx to BILL to bill in BusinessWorld
by quasar＠vsnl.net 06 Nov '02

06 Nov '02

vinayak(at)myrealbox.com wrote: > You have missed the point. The point here is not good > vs evil but about what one would prefer as businessman If you have followed this thread, you may have noted that it was about good vs evil. All my objections and counter examples have been to show that PS is not anything evil and that it is a viable parallel system. The fact that /we/ dont like it does not make it evil and so we should not have to encourage people to go for the FS way because the other way is evil. That is all I was saying. What a business man will prefer will be based on his practical needs. What we are talking about here is ethics.

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HappyDiwali thanx to BILL to bill in BusinessWorld
by Frederick Noronha 06 Nov '02

06 Nov '02

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[OT][JOBS]Fwd: urgent requirement for mainframes
by Trevor Warren 06 Nov '02

06 Nov '02

--- ven madhav <madhr77(a)yahoo.co.in> wrote: > Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:58:31 +0000 (GMT) > From: ven madhav <madhr77(a)yahoo.co.in> > Subject: urgent requirement for mainframes > To: trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com > > > Hello! > This is venu here i represent a professional > recruiting firm based at hyd > Right now we have an urgent and immediate > requirement for mainframes people > with over 7 yrs exp for a company by name keane url > www.keane.com > the position is based at hyd.For immediate > consideration pls mail your > updated asap.would greatly appreciate your leads and > references in this regard > Thanks in advance for your time and favours. > Best Regards > venu > Post your ad on Yahoo! India Autos.Check out the > used Maruti, Fiat and Ford models on sale now. ===== ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevor.w(a)media.mit.edu \ (/ | |_|_ \ Research Asst, MediaLab / _|_| \___________________________________/ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] HappyDiwali thanx to BILL to bill in BusinessWorld
by quasar＠vsnl.net 06 Nov '02

06 Nov '02

vinayak(a)myrealbox.com wrote >Also you will agree that being not being tied to a >single s/w vendor also makes sound business sense. So >that you are not at the nercy to the whims and >fancies of that particular vendor It makes good sense only sometimes. Consider this example: I am a company developing some solution for a specialised domain. I choose some OS and a commercial tool for the development from company X. I also buy the support package offered by that X. Well, during the development process we face many problems which are promptly dealt with by the support team at X. They also patch the product for a few of our specific needs. I find it a well worth investment for buying the tool from X. Replace X with Xanalys. The 'tool' was Lispworks. The guy who posted the above at c.l.l was Dave Bakhash and he was extremely satisfied with Lispworks and Xanalys. It helped him complete his (telephony product I think) ahead of schedule. The point is Commercial Proprietary Software per say is not evil. The Free Software Movement come from a Utopian spirit exibhited by some people. There is no need for one side to be evil for the other side to be 'good'.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] HappyDiwali thanx to BILL to bill in BusinessWorld
by quasar＠vsnl.net 06 Nov '02

06 Nov '02

code_martial(a)softhome.net wrote >You're persistent :-) Unfortunately, that doesn't always help. And >no, >I am definitely not going to argue further with you. I succumb to >your >persistence. Have you suddenly developed an halo or something? I suppose if you have then it would be OK to stoop to patronizing me even when you dont have anything worthwhile to say. I succumb to your lack of will to even see ideas beyond your own.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] HappyDiwali thanx to BILL to bill in BusinessWorld
by quasar＠vsnl.net 06 Nov '02

06 Nov '02

code_martial(at)softhome.net wrote On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:17:38 +0500 (IST) quasar(at)vsnl.net wrote: >> thought exist together? The proprietary software paradigm is what >> we do not like. But by us not liking it does not make it evil or >> wrong. Then where does the question of war come from? Or like the > Think I would also urge you to do it sometimes - has plesent side effects. > DRM, DMCA, Palladium, Trusted Computing. Those are all the > angelic gifts of Proprietary Software. And they sure are most > willing > to co-exist with Free Software Philosophy. The above mentioned are certainly /not/ direct gifts of Proprietary Software. They are completely seperate issues which are related to the Software-Hardware brotherhood. Proprietarty Soft does and can exist with the Free Software. BTW the FS Philosophy does not exist to negate the evil PSP. It exists because of a different approach to life by some people. And you Dear Microsoft is a non-issue here. Hopefully the LUG meet is on this Sunday the 10th were we can discuss these issues. I am looking forward to it.

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] HappyDiwali thanx to BILL to bill in BusinessWorld
by vinayak 06 Nov '02

06 Nov '02

-----Original Message----- From: "Saswata Banerjee & Associates" <scrap(a)saswatabanerjee.com> <snip> On a related note, why is it that in mid 90s, 68% of webservers were Apache / Linux ? Not simply because the server owners thought open source philosophy is great (many of them probably did too), but because it met a very important need of theirs and it was business decision. ------------- There are fundamental differences between the Free software Movement (spearheaded by FSF) and the open source movement. There are not the *same* but *similar*. Hence it is not wise to mention them in the as synonyms. <snip> For example, If I ever tell my clients to switch to Linux, it will be considering business factors only -- cost (not necessarily free -- and considering hardware + software costs), options avaialble, ease of use, difficulty to maintain and availabity of good tech personnel who are willing to provide support at a reasonable cost. ----------- Also you will agree that being not being tied to a single s/w vendor also makes sound business sense. So that you are not at the nercy to the whims and fancies of that particular vendor ---> Vinayak Hegde

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