Linuxers April 2005

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tally thread
by SeekingGyan 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

i think tally and linux thread is no longer relevant. someone asked if tally worked on linux ... list responded ... dont know what is the fuss about it now ? if anyone who is willing to pay for tally and is ok with the vendor lockin but still wants to move out of windows into linux .... i will consider it a first step towards moving to FLOSS ... not bad .... someday when oss equivalent of tally will be ready and he will gladly move to it for those who are really serious about teaming up to build FLOSS accounting package for indians sud possibly team with existing projects, contribute and accelerate the process. no point reiterating the point on the list .... a SIG sud be created for this and serious attension sud be paid .... i wud be more than willing to be a test user for it Regards Harsh

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Adobe restores Reader's Linux support.
by Nadiem 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

Adobe Reader is now available for Linux again. Download Link: http://www.adobe.com.au/products/acrobat/readstep2.html Regards, Nadim. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: tally
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

On Wednesday 13 April 2005 14:37, Devdas Bhagat wrote: > On 13/04/05 11:30 +0500, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > What ever gave you the idea that free and open databases are not > > tried and tested. Postgres (renamed firebird db ) and Mysql are > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > When did THAT happen? Firebird is the Borland Interbase database, > one version of which was GPLed. Sorry. It's not renamed. But i distinctly remember that it was to be renamed for the 8.xx series and a spat about some other project with a similiar name. And 8.xx was to include a lot of the borland codebase as per an interview with the developers. rgds jtd

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[Commercial] Developing File Systems
by Concepts Systems 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

Hello All, Concepts has always been in forefront for providing software professionals with right directions, methodology to ensure that they remain on cutting edge of development and continue to win, with quality training from experienced Industry Experts. We are extremely happy to announce next batch of "File System Driver Workshop for Windows" from 23rd April 2005. During workshop, our team of Device Drivers professionals will be on hand to discuss: 1) Advanced I/O Manager Concepts 2) Virtual Memory System 3) Introduction to File Systems 4) FSD Architecture for Windows 5) FSD Core Functions and Auxiliary Functions 6) Fast I/O Operations 7) Case Study 8) File System Filter Drivers 9) Case Study Don't miss this opportunity to see first-hand how Concepts illustrates File System Fundamentals across the windows platform with a discussion of broader operating systems issues for developers as well as practical issues related to development of FSD and Filter Drivers. Prerequisite: Participants must have an understanding of Windows Kernel Mode Drivers Total Duration: 30 Hrs (Weekend Batch) Cost: Rs. 6000 per participant Venue: Concepts,Kothrud, Pune,India. If you have any queries feel free to mail us at info(a)conceptssys.com or contact us on 020 - 25381126. Seats are Limited. Entries only with prior registration. Thanks & Regards, Team, Concepts. http://www.conceptssys.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Tally and Linux
by Derwyn Dpenha 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

Had to ask all the gurus who use tally, can u import the data into another database. ie.mysql, sql, oracle, (I know i'm going to get abuses for next two) access, sql. If the answer is no have you ever thought what are we all going to do if tally tomorrow closes shop? Think about it. As far as Tally 6.3 goes no i've not suceeded in doing this one even through wine. But I have seen a pirated version of tally 5.* work on wine, u will have to change the path in tally.ini file as to where the data is beeing stored (search the archives it's discussed before). Tally claims that 7.2 has a linux version (with rpms for redhat) I've written to them for a demo (No luck). Derwyn

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Hi (Recently joined member)
by Roshan 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

I have subscribed to this group through the website. But I am unable to understand the procedure of posting messages, helping people who are facing difficulties in linux and receipt of the digests. Please give a stepwise information about how to go about posting messages, replying to people and other stuff. I wish to contribute a lot to the linux community and was very much happy to know that you had a small session at K. J. Somaiya College of Engg. and I.T. at Sion. However, unfamiliar of this group then, I could not attend it. However, I would like to attend a few. Currently I am doing BSc I.T. (Second Year). Hoping to get a quick reply. _____________________________ www.geocities.com/d_rosh2001 ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tally and GNU/Linux
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

On Tuesday 12 April 2005 15:49, Erle Pereira wrote: > Nagarjuna G. wrote: > > Does this application support Export of data to any > > other standards? What freedom users have? Are > > the users locked in? etc. > > Asked my aunt to check with the accounts department to verify if > there is a way to export data /use the data with anything else. > > The answer was a firm "NO". Afaik you could export in csv format. I think it was 6.0. Also Peutronics targets the CA community with free and highily discounted offers.Which forces everybody else to use tally. I had purchased tally in 95 and had a big spat with them about their requirement of installing OS2. I wanted it to work on windows 95 (jeez the idiocity - but then hindsight is a very exacting science). And had them sign a clause that they will give me the windows version free of cost. They did in 97 after threatening them with legal action. Two years or so ago a tally rep calls up and asks me which accounting package i use. Tally i say. He says that they have a special super discount for users of pirated tally. I ask him about legit users. He says sorry no discount. He then wants to know my licence number which ofcourse i refuse to give. Imagine trying to find that stupid dongle (which takes half an hour to crack anyway) in my junk box. He then threatens legal action. I told him i would love nasscom or whoever was their shill to raid me as it would guarantee my happy retirement to hawaii. Which reminds me of licensing issues discussed a few days back. Turns out that you cannot combine with gpld code anything (data, code, images, logos, anything) whose terms of distribution violate the gpl. So if RH suse whoever includes their logo in a piece of gpld code and then asks you to remove that logo from the code, they are violating the gpl. Which means that you only have to remove logos which are standing alone. Then copy and redistribute to all and sundry. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: tally
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

On Tuesday 12 April 2005 13:23, Abhishek Daga wrote: > But someone raised an interesting question. > What if Tally were to shut shop (remember what your mother told you > about "never say never"), and given that it's a proprietory > Database, sure a lot of people will be bambooed to high heavens. Aha. Tally refuses to support older versions, without paying for all the upgrades. So dont wait for Tally to shutdown to get screwed. You are already screwed. > The generic problem statement as I see consists of the following > parts: a) Using a database that is not proprietory and tried and > tested while being tinkerable..(mysql or postGres) What ever gave you the idea that free and open databases are not tried and tested. Postgres (renamed firebird db ) and Mysql are perhaps tested more than all the others and on wildly varying load and hardware conditions, and the formerly closed databases Ingress, SAP, and many others are also available under the gpl. > b) An accounting system, maybe a clone of Tally. It's critical that > it should be a clone, even if tally is not perfect. Else you'd have > a lot of reluctant migrants. It should only import data. I think most CAs are smart enough to see and learn a better alternative in a matter of hours. And all of them are sick to death of the windows disease. > Instead of asking if anyone is keen to take the initiative, let's > say I am taking the intiative. Surely I am not the first one to > think about this. But with some commitment and convergence of > initiatives, it can be a feasible alternative. I Just installed avsap. Why dont you. We can collectively rant at KG ;-). rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GRUB failure
by ryan coelho 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

Dear Vickram, You have to define where is your /boot directory is it kept in a seperate partition or is with the root partition, if kept seperate use your redhat bootable cd , at boot prompt type linux rescue and then type chroot /mnt/sysimage, then type in grub-install --recheck /dev/hdax (the partition no. of /boot) at the prompt. Restart your machine Ryan. On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 Vickram Crishna wrote : >Does anyone know how to get around this? I get persistent GRUB failure, Error 15. I have tried several times to reload the GRUB loader, using RH9 disks and also Ubuntu (the latter does not have any way to install GRUB without committing to partitioning), but despite apparent success during the process, it always returns the same error. > >Query: should I try Lilo? I must have the ability to boot to either OS. >-- Vickram > >-- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GRUB failure
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

On Tuesday 12 April 2005 18:44, Vickram Crishna wrote: > Does anyone know how to get around this? I get persistent GRUB > failure, Error 15. Afair error 15=file not found. means your root partition is not set properly in grub. Note grub partition numbers begin with zero so if root is on first ide drive first partition your grub menu.lst would look like title deb-2.6.10 root(hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz boot=/dev/hda1 dma acpi append="whatever" here is my menu.lst root (hd0,4) boot=/dev/hda default=0 timeout=10 #splashimage=(hd0,4)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz title deb-2.6.10 root (hd0,4) kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hda5 idebus=66 append="hdd=ide-scsi dma apm=power-off" #the above line is one line title Debian-2.4.24 (reiser) root (hd0,4) kernel /vmlinuz.old ro root=/dev/hda5 append="hdd=ide-scsi" #initrd /boot/initrd title win root (hd0,1) # hide (hd0,4) rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader +1 #title LTSP > I have tried several times to reload the GRUB > loader, using RH9 disks and also Ubuntu (the latter does not have > any way to install GRUB without committing to partitioning), but > despite apparent success during the process, it always returns the > same error. You dont need to reload grub once it is installed, just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst > > Query: should I try Lilo? I must have the ability to boot to either grub is altogether more flexible particularly if you muck around with drives and kernels and distros. Me loves grub. rgds jtd

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