Ravindra Jaju [Sun Oct 28, 2001 at 05:00:37PM +0530]:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Dr . Sharukh K . R . Pavri . wrote:
This is long, you have been warned :-)
(This is short).
This probably longer :-)
Your mail is based on wrong assumptions.
Is it ?
1] No one stops newbies from subscribing to the techies' list.
But it seems the very reason to start a *techie* list was to avoid reading (okay, I'll give you this -- the same old) newbie mails. Do correct me if I am wrong. I remember when every alternate email asked about how to configure X on the Sis cards :-) and peolpe did get pointed to links even then. And which newbie would automatically subscribe to the techie list ?
2] Newbies ask all newbie questions on the newbies' list.
Where said queries *may* not find an answer. Yes, I fully agree with whoever said that he/she is not obliged to answer any query. But are we not forgetting the fact that we are all social animals and open source is essentially based on peer review. If Linus Torvalds had not open sourced and shared Linux, would it be such a success story ? Knowledge is the only commodity that actually doubles on sharing. The call for a seperate techie list comes from people who are undoubtedly far advanced in their knowledge of matters computing, and for whom such things may seem trivial, but are there not *some* things that leave them foxed ? I know my simile of the non mechanical minded car owner is not fully correct, but what does one do if the car mechanic told you to dig out the car user manual and fix the differential yourself :-(.
3] The so-called elitist .... nah! There, you are actually smelling like a politician, trying to create a divide! ;-)
I thought it was the other way around, I was trying to avoid the divide, or am I missing the boat completely ? And believe me I hate poiticians and politics. I only vote because I think it is the correct thing to do.
There's no such thing in anyone's mind. Just that all those who care and want to help need not do it all the time!
How true !! And I am not even remotely suggesting that people *must* help and that too all the time.
How can I make sure that everyone follows the rules and uses proper tags in his/her subject line, thus letting procmail do the stuff for me?
Ahh...but there lies the root of our problem does it not :-). Of course someone will not put the right tag on his mail but then if that bothers you, you can choose to ignore the mail in it's entirety because anyway the mail won't get filtered to your priority folder. One would assume that a techie mail would come from someone *responsible*, as opposed to which, I think a newbie should be given the benefit of the doubt; though YMMV.
And, as I said, normally everyone in the techies' list will also subscrbe to the newbies' list.
I should most certainly hope they do.
Linux and the Open Source concept is about sharing and helping. How can you even get terms like elitist etc. into the picture!?
Alright I take it back; I used the word for want of another, maybe more apt, to convey what *I* felt. I already apologised in advance in my initial mail. But then I would still suggest putting in abeyance any thoughts of forking the list. Just my 2 paisa.
cheers!
-- jaju
regards,
Sharukh.
I once again would like to point out that this or my previous mails are not in any way personal attacks on anyone whatsoever.