Hello,
We are planning to make ext2/3 file system driver in windows with the help of which one can access linux partitions from windows in dual boot pc. Since there already exist many open source tools for it (some examples: ext2ifs, ext2fs), we want to make something extra and different. We are thinking of making something like "wine that exists in linux" or cygwin(cygwin i guess is just a simulation unlike wine which can run actual win exes). But not getting any exact idea of what to do.
People plz suggest something that is challenging but viable(tough combo :) ) in one year, really useful (one may think why the hell one would want to run linux prog on windows that too on dual boot pc where you can just reboot, basically that winwala thing is just an idea).
All people who have some innovative ideas about such tools and cross-platform FS, in general, access plz let us know.
bye, take care.
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what is the main reason for this project? is it commertial aspect or just to learn? Krishnakant.
On 9/21/06, sankalp shere wrote:
Hello,
We are planning to make ext2/3 file system driver in windows with the help of which one can access linux partitions from windows in dual boot pc.
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Are you planning something similar to http://fs-driver.org/index.html?
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 06:46:10PM +0100, sankalp shere wrote:
Hello,
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Lots of unwrapped text blabbering about ideas
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Dude,
First of all get your mail to use line wrapping. Judging from your language and tone I believe you are an engineering student and looking for a "cool" project to score marks/points/credits and to show off to your potential employers.
Now, here is what I find incredibly astounding is that you say you want a "combo" of something viable and challenging, but are unable to get any ideas! That is really sad, there are a lot of unglamarous projects out there which require help. You should first see if you are able to help them. If want to be Linux RockStar then try porting the ReiserFS4 code to the Win32 platform....you and your team will become the poster boys of FLOSS.
Learn to crawl before you try to fly, dude.
And stop fishing for ideas, if you can't get them yourself, then you probably aren't as gifted as you think you are!
Nosferatu
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On Friday 22 September 2006 12:48, Nosferatu!!! wrote:
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 06:46:10PM +0100, sankalp shere wrote:
Hello,
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Lots of unwrapped text blabbering about ideas
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Dude,
First of all get your mail to use line wrapping. Judging from your language and tone I believe you are an engineering student and looking for a "cool" project to score marks/points/credits and to show off to your potential employers.
Unfortunately, engineering students in and around mumbai do not have subjects that teach them Email etiquette. There is no harm in being an "Engineering student" , who wants to have a "cool" project to earn "Brownie points" He could simply be a engineering student, who is very enthusiastic about his actual first step into the world of technology, that is, out of the world of his books.
Now, here is what I find incredibly astounding is that you say you want a "combo" of something viable and challenging, but are unable to get any ideas! That is really sad, there are a lot of unglamarous projects out there which require help. You should first see if you are able to help them. If want to be Linux RockStar then try porting the ReiserFS4 code to the Win32 platform....you and your team will become the poster boys of FLOSS.
Learn to crawl before you try to fly, dude.
And stop fishing for ideas, if you can't get them yourself, then you probably aren't as gifted as you think you are!
Please do not discourage upcoming technology graduates, if at all you want to do something, encourage them, and who knows they WILL fly before they CRAWL.
Its a request to the entire list, let us stop flaming new people or students for that matter.
On Friday 22 September 2006 15:46, Boskey Chheda wrote:
Its a request to the entire list, let us stop flaming new people or students for that matter.
Firstly any project requires lotsa background work.The poster provides a synopsis and tentative conclusions from the background work. Eg. recent post by Dinesh Shah on the identity project. there was ample info in the first mail itself. If the mail does not contain these in good measure the poster is sitting on his ass and expecting others to do work for him. He really needs some flame throwing. In this case the poster did some very minimal work. There was a lot more that he should have done before posting. The flames will convey the message. I also find it very strange that newbies find everything on google except linux howtos. It is not as though they are newbies to pcs and the net is it. And the more they have used pcs the more they think that they are doing the world a favour by switching.
Its a request to the entire list, let us stop flaming new people or students for that matter.
JTD's Post was not at all a flame or discouraging new comer. I too found that student want ready made project on platter. Net is full off linux material, and it is expected that they do some home work, before expecting any one to respond on list. I have subscribed to many embedded list, and usually "give me schematic and code for blah blah" approach is discouraged.
Best Regards,
Mukund Deshmukh. Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd 10/1, IT Park, Parsodi, Nagpur-440022 Cell - 9422113746
On Saturday 23 September 2006 11:59, Mukund Deshmukh wrote:
I have subscribed to many embedded list, and usually "give me schematic and code for blah blah" approach is discouraged.
And almost all of them are from Indians. Very many not from students but people working on linux projects and not knowing abcs of linux.
On Saturday 23 September 2006 11:59, Mukund Deshmukh wrote:
I have subscribed to many embedded list, and usually "give me schematic and code for blah blah" approach is discouraged.
And almost all of them are from Indians.
Unfortunately true - Classic example are LPC2000, 8052.com
Best Regards,
Mukund Deshmukh. Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd 10/1, IT Park, Parsodi, Nagpur-440022 Cell - 9422113746
On Saturday 23 September 2006 08:17, jtd wrote:
And almost all of them are from Indians. Very many not from students but people working on linux projects and not knowing abcs of linux.
I agree on this one. Many of the forums / blogs / tech articles have stupid comments by people especially Indians. I mean comments like "Dear Sir, could u plz tell me how to get linux driver installed in windows?Plaese sent me teh code at ilovemyself@me.com". ( I've included the spelling mistakes intentionally :P )
Its embarrassing to say the least.
On Friday 22 September 2006 07:18, Nosferatu!!! wrote:
First of all get your mail to use line wrapping. Judging from your language and tone I believe you are an engineering student and looking for a "cool" project to score marks/points/credits and to show off to your potential employers.
Now, here is what I find incredibly astounding is that you say you want a "combo" of something viable and challenging, but are unable to get any ideas! That is really sad, there are a lot of unglamarous projects out there which require help. You should first see if you are able to help them. If want to be Linux RockStar then try porting the ReiserFS4 code to the Win32 platform....you and your team will become the poster boys of FLOSS.
Learn to crawl before you try to fly, dude.
And stop fishing for ideas, if you can't get them yourself, then you probably aren't as gifted as you think you are!
You could've simply ignored the post. No need to have flamed him...
And stop fishing for ideas, if you can't get them yourself, then you probably aren't as gifted as you think you are!
You could've simply ignored the post. No need to have flamed him...
-- Dinesh A. Joshi
Agree with Dinesh there. So Sankalp, it would be a good idea to create an oss driver for the other commonly used filesystems like reiserfs, xfs in Win32. You could look at the existing ext2/3 opensource fs driver and extend it ... this should help keep a basic framework constant.
reiserfs has some really good documentation and explanations on its site to help you understand the filesystem very quickly.
Don't go for brownie points. Go for real contribution and you'll create something really useful for someone else. Else wait for the Google SoC to get more ideas. I know just 1 Indian dude who is working on a Google SoC in Samba. Yet to see him complete anything. :D
regards, C
Don't go for brownie points. Go for real contribution and you'll create something really useful for someone else. Else wait for the Google SoC to get more ideas. I know just 1 Indian dude who is working on a Google SoC in Samba. Yet to see him complete anything. :D
There are around 4/5 indian guys working on various Google SoC projects like Ubuntu, Horde, GNOME etc.
Anurag
On 22-Sep-06, at 5:59 PM, Anurag wrote:
Google SoC to get more ideas. I know just 1 Indian dude who is working on a Google SoC in Samba. Yet to see him complete anything. :D
There are around 4/5 indian guys working on various Google SoC projects like Ubuntu, Horde, GNOME etc.
9 indians afaik (that is indians from india). afaik all have completed their projects, and at the proposal stage one of them was acclaimed the best in world for having the most projects accepted.
You could've simply ignored the post. No need to have flamed him...
I would rather agree with Nosferatu. I think what we should look for as enngeneering projects is innovative commercial ideas. What is the use of accessing ext2 filesystem from Win. You might come out with some uses, no doubt. But will you be able to sell it and earn ?
Think on the ideas for generating revenue by solving peoples much needed problems rather than 'cool' stuff to impress ur professors and girlfriends.
On 23/09/06 03:00 -0400, Harshal Vaidya wrote:
You could've simply ignored the post. No need to have flamed him...
I would rather agree with Nosferatu. I think what we should look for as enngeneering projects is innovative commercial ideas. What is the use of accessing ext2 filesystem from Win. You might come out with some uses, no doubt. But will you be able to sell it and earn ?
It's an engineering _project_, not a business plan. Let me quote this guy on his project: "I'm doing a (free) operating system, (just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu) for 386(486) clones."
I think you know the rest :).
Or perhaps you want be one of these guys: http://www.google.com/search?q=larry+page who had access to a vast academic network for their project.
Think on the ideas for generating revenue by solving peoples much needed problems rather than 'cool' stuff to impress ur professors and girlfriends.
And that would be for when OP wants to go into business and impress customers and/or VC.
Devdas Bhagat
It's an engineering _project_, not a business plan.
It dosent hurt at all if an engineering project also converts into a product or service around which a business plan can be made.
Or perhaps you want be one of these guys: http://www.google.com/search?q=larry+page who had access to a vast academic network for their project.
You don't always need a vast resource to develop a product. The larry page link is irrelevant to this discussion.
And that would be for when OP wants to go into business and impress
customers >and/or VC.
A product is developed out of an idea or a need for providing better services keeping in mind at the same time that a good revenue can be generated. Impressing customers and VC's is secondary. You are making all irrelevant statements considering that they are looking for ideas for a project.
Harshal Vaidya wrote:
A product is developed out of an idea or a need for providing better services keeping in mind at the same time that a good revenue can be generated. Impressing customers and VC's is secondary. You are making all irrelevant statements considering that they are looking for ideas for a project.
The first flaming that the OP got was a personal attack, an attempt to humiliate him, not a technical flaming.
Regards,
Rony.
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On 9/26/06, Dinesh Joshi dinesh.a.joshi@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday 25 September 2006 06:18, Rony wrote:
The first flaming that the OP got was a personal attack, an attempt to humiliate him, not a technical flaming.
Exactly. I mean his post wasn't all that bad.
Right. M'be am missing the point here however, other than discussing mail ettiquetes, flames and nitpicking, has anyone really gone around throwing in few good ideas at all ? Whether the OP deserves it is another point. However won't it be a good idea to just pitch in and have a free flowing discussion on technical stuff ?
Agreed that there's tons of material out there. However if you have experience in anyone of them could anyone give the student a good sizing/estimate ? I don't say give him a project ready, however give him pointers and a rough estimate on how much time it would take.
What beats me is the fact why this list has to be pendantic all the time and help minimally in terms of technical ideas. Heck I guess most people don't want to hack stuff anymore :)
regards, C
On Tuesday 26 September 2006 11:38, Chetan S wrote:
On 9/26/06, Dinesh Joshi dinesh.a.joshi@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday 25 September 2006 06:18, Rony wrote:
The first flaming that the OP got was a personal attack, an attempt to humiliate him, not a technical flaming.
Exactly. I mean his post wasn't all that bad.
Right. M'be am missing the point here however,
U are. the point is not giving (or not giving info) but making the other person do his part of the job - First.
other than discussing mail ettiquetes, flames and nitpicking, has anyone really gone around throwing in few good ideas at all ? Whether the OP deserves it is another point. However won't it be a good idea to just pitch in and have a free flowing discussion on technical stuff ?
U missed the identity and ciss thread?. There was the thread on fingerprint processing algos form Mukund Deshpande and myself, wanna start. Ther was the adhoc wireless network workshop at HBCSE.Like to poke around there.
Agreed that there's tons of material out there. However if you have experience in anyone of them could anyone give the student a good sizing/estimate ? I don't say give him a project ready, however give him pointers and a rough estimate on how much time it would take.
That is what he has to do - the groundwork.It helps him accrure and (hopefully) assimilate info. Let some student do that and several on the list will provide more than adequate support.
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