Linuxers February 2005

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] re: uninstalling files in mandrake 10
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 02 Feb '05

02 Feb '05

>>Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:33 AM >>To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >>Subject: [ILUG-BOM] re: uninstalling files in mandrake 10 >>hey one thought computer software meant for the lay >>user must be intuitive in nature. one doesn't have to >>go out and get a degree in software coding to install >>a dialer!!!!! Unfortunately you won't get a WinXP style ease of use in Linux... if that was the case any flavour of Linux would be the only thing in the market today... Apart from whatever the base installation does for you, if you need something specific, there's a good chance that you'll need to know quite a bit of command line stuff to get it to work. This is what the base camp refers to as the Unix philosophy (lots of dedicated command line tools that can work magic if combined by the right hands).. but as you have experienced this is the downside.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] MTNL ADSL
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 02 Feb '05

02 Feb '05

On Tuesday 01 February 2005 18:18, Vickram Crishna wrote: > At 4:34 PM +0530 2/1/05, SeekingGyan wrote: > >MTNL is testing their broadband services across bombay. I have > > applied for it but they said it will take atleast 45 days to get > > a connection as they are still testing in other areas of the > > city. ... ( me based at borivli ) > > I have noticed that telco engineers are often completely clueless > about personal computing. My direct experience is Reliance, Tata > Indicom and MTNL. None knew that there were alternatives to > Windows, and that many users of such existed in Mumbai city at > least. It took a while for Reliance to create a download for a > GNU/Linux compatible dialer for their CDMA fixed wireless service. wvdial and kppp works fine on the reliance network even before they officially announced the service (personally tested ). What were they trying to "create" > I don't know if it also works on the Tata service. I do know that > asking MTNL for help can be a very frustrating experience. wvdial and kppp works on Tataindicom (personally tested). It also works on orange, airtel, and bpl gprs and gsmdata (personally tested. > > So next time (and there will be a next time) someone asks for help > do look for ways of providing it instead of finding reasons why it > should not be given. If you can't think of a way please don't > discourage others from trying - by all means let us know of the > pitfalls though. That's what an open forum is for. not unless the person has made an attempt to resolve his problems thru readily available means FIRST. GNU/Linux is all about self help. If you do not do that you are leaving the door wide open to the problem you are trying to escape - dependence. rgds jtd

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re: uninstalling files in mandrake 10
by journo shiv 02 Feb '05

02 Feb '05

hey one thought computer software meant for the lay user must be intuitive in nature. one doesn't have to go out and get a degree in software coding to install a dialer!!!!! the comment below simply smacks of the disdain a sectin of the linux community has for the lay user. shiv kumar -----Original Message----- From: akodian(a)gmail.com Subject: uninstalling files in mandrake 10 A little knowledge is a dangerous thing - read up on linux package management. you cant use linux if youre averse to learning new things. This list will mostly not spoon-feed you solutions buddy... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com

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ppp nak/rej error
by anandraj soni 01 Feb '05

01 Feb '05

I have tried using configuring internet on linux using pppd and am getting following error. It says that I am connected, but no web page opens. Also ping replies with correct results to the ISP's IP address. Kindly send me solutions to same. Folowing is the log message that I got. <starts here> Feb 1 22:41:37 localhost pppd[13689]: pppd 2.4.2 started by root, uid 0 Feb 1 22:41:38 localhost chat[13819]: send (AT^M) Feb 1 22:41:38 localhost chat[13819]: expect (OK) Feb 1 22:41:38 localhost chat[13819]: ^M Feb 1 22:41:38 localhost chat[13819]: OK Feb 1 22:41:38 localhost chat[13819]: -- got it Feb 1 22:41:38 localhost chat[13819]: send (ATD#777^M) Feb 1 22:41:38 localhost chat[13819]: expect (CONNECT) Feb 1 22:41:38 localhost chat[13819]: ^M Feb 1 22:41:38 localhost chat[13819]: ^M Feb 1 22:41:38 localhost chat[13819]: CONNECT Feb 1 22:41:38 localhost chat[13819]: -- got it Feb 1 22:41:38 localhost chat[13819]: send (\d) Feb 1 22:41:39 localhost pppd[13689]: Serial connection established. Feb 1 22:41:39 localhost pppd[13689]: Using interface ppp0 Feb 1 22:41:39 localhost pppd[13689]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0 Feb 1 22:41:44 localhost pppd[13689]: PAP authentication succeeded Feb 1 22:41:44 localhost pppd[13689]: local IP address 220.224.7.46 Feb 1 22:41:44 localhost pppd[13689]: remote IP address 97.232.2.9 Feb 1 22:41:45 localhost pppd[13689]: Received bad configure-nak/rej: 12 06 00 00 00 01 Feb 1 22:44:51 localhost pppd[13689]: Terminating on signal 15. Feb 1 22:44:57 localhost pppd[13689]: Connection terminated. Feb 1 22:44:57 localhost pppd[13689]: Connect time 3.2 minutes. Feb 1 22:44:57 localhost pppd[13689]: Sent 9668 bytes, received 7076 bytes. Feb 1 22:44:58 localhost pppd[13689]: Connect time 3.2 minutes. Feb 1 22:44:58 localhost pppd[13689]: Sent 9668 bytes, received 7076 bytes. Feb 1 22:44:58 localhost pppd[13689]: Exit <ends here> Anandraj Soni.

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xine player on RHEL3
by Advait Raut 01 Feb '05

01 Feb '05

hi hi any body has install xine player on RHEL3. coz i tried a lot, to install it but was unsuccessfull. some or other lib or some package was missing every time. has any one tried, then pls let me know the things required & way to install it.

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ADSL
by santosh rao 01 Feb '05

01 Feb '05

harsh, yes, it works on linux. u have to have pppoe support in the kernel and also get urself a dialer. i had used rp-pppoe, it works fine. -- "He who fights monsters should look to it that he himself does not become one." - Friedrich Nietzche

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How to mount windows partition was Re: [ILUG-BOM]
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 01 Feb '05

01 Feb '05

On Monday 01 January 2001 01:34, Linux wrote: > hi all > just want to know how do I > see my windows VFAT partition thru linux ...I am Using Yoper as my > os. harish shetty First put a subject line relevant to your mail. next google. next look at the docs in /usr/share/doc/HOWTO then post here But presuming that u have just escaped the gates here is how to do it I presume you have a fat32 partition. 1) insert the fat module modprobe vfat 2) make a directory for mounting your windose partition mkdir </cdrive> 3)mount the windose partition mount -t vfat /dev/hdX? /cdrive where X = master drive on ide0=a slave drive on ide0=b master drive on ide1=c slave drive on ide0=d where ? = partition number 1= first partition, 2 = second partition etc. 4) add this line to the end of /etc/fstab if u want to automount on boot /dev/hda1 /winhda1 vfat rw,user,auto 0 0 5)man mount 6)man modprobe 7)man fstab rgds jtd where X = master drive on ide0=a slave drive on ide0=b master drive on ide1=c slave drive on ide0=d where ? = partition number 1= first partition, 2 = second partition etc.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] query regarding linux
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 01 Feb '05

01 Feb '05

On Tuesday 01 February 2005 12:35, Rajendra Prasad Murakonda wrote: > On Tue, 1 Feb 2005, kevin rodrigues wrote: > > hi all, > > i would like to switch to linux from windows. but i feel nervous > > as i have never installed linux for regular usage like playing > > games, Games is a potential problem as most games are specifically written for windoze > surfing the internet, etc. a constant fear lurks in the > > mind what if it does not detect my hardware, Please describe your hardware. > > how do i configure > > it for cable internet considering that my cable internet provider Who is the provider. The following isp work - ive used em. Hathway Satyam Incablenet Most others should work too. And as Philip said "Preemptive worrying causes premature aging." Once you stop using windoze you will stop worrying and start living a free & haaappy life. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] MTNL ADSL
by Vickram Crishna 01 Feb '05

01 Feb '05

At 4:34 PM +0530 2/1/05, SeekingGyan wrote: >MTNL is testing their broadband services across bombay. I have applied >for it but they said it will take atleast 45 days to get a connection >as they are still testing in other areas of the city. ... ( me based >at borivli ) > >the engg was not aware about linux support but said they are using all >standard and latest stuff ... > >has anyone tested it on linux ? > >More info on this service is here >http://mumbai.mtnl.net.in/internetservices/adsl/triband.html I am glad that someone on this list points out what should be obvious - that not everyone 'out there' is aware of other operating systems, or even that there are issues around operating systems. Not that I run a cybercafe or am least interested in running one - but I did think that in a group of people who have an interest in FLOSS there would be some (aside from those who burnt their fingers trying this once before) who would see the value of promoting FLOSSOSes (I love making curious looking acronyms) in different environments. I have noticed that telco engineers are often completely clueless about personal computing. My direct experience is Reliance, Tata Indicom and MTNL. None knew that there were alternatives to Windows, and that many users of such existed in Mumbai city at least. It took a while for Reliance to create a download for a GNU/Linux compatible dialer for their CDMA fixed wireless service. I don't know if it also works on the Tata service. I do know that asking MTNL for help can be a very frustrating experience. So next time (and there will be a next time) someone asks for help do look for ways of providing it instead of finding reasons why it should not be given. If you can't think of a way please don't discourage others from trying - by all means let us know of the pitfalls though. That's what an open forum is for. -- Vickram

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WiMax in India
by Harshal Vaidya 01 Feb '05

01 Feb '05

Hi, Are there any WiMax providers in India? Is any company gearing up for WiMax deployment? For those who are unaware of WiMax have a quick read at www.wimaxxed.com. Thanks, Harshal. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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