Linuxers April 2005

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Bug in Linux?
by Net Letters 04 Apr '05

04 Apr '05

Hi List, I'm new to Linux. Just got a mail from a friend about a bug in Linux/Unix. I've not tried it yet. I'm providing the mail below for your information. Is this really a bug? Biggest bug in linux/unix!!!!! U can retrieve Password of the user. This is due a well known bug in the crypto algorithm of UNIX, used to generate /etc/passwd hash. Recent fixes have recommended usage of stronger algorithms like MD5, etc., But due to the large deployment of Unix machines, world-wide, its a very difficult task, requiring huge Logistics support. Check if your machine has the vulnerability. Just type the following command in UNIX or LINUX or Solaris, and you won't beleive that it will give you password of the user who has logged in !!! echo '82 43/25 43+65P80P82P73P76P32P70P79P79P76P10P' | dc -- Cheers__________________________ netletters(a)gmail.com ________________________________

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Bug in Linux?
by Anand M R 04 Apr '05

04 Apr '05

Enjoyed it as i'm across it for the first time since i'm a new member. Anand.

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Linux Uses Mac
by Gaurav Mishra 04 Apr '05

04 Apr '05

Got this From a friend Check it out. The link is http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=11039 Wednesday - March 09, 2005 Linux creator 'switches' to Mac By Macworld staff Linux creator and self-confessed "media whore" Linus Torvalds has admitted he is using a Mac as his main desktop. Torvald told ZDNet Australia: "My main machine these days is a dual 2GHz G5. It's physically a regular Apple Mac, although it obviously only runs Linux, so I don't think you can call it a Mac any more. "As to the why... Part of it is simply that I wanted to try something else, and I felt like there were enough people testing the x86 side that it certainly didn't need me. Part of it is that I personally believe there are two main architectures out there: Power [the PowerPC chip is used in the Power Mac] and x86-64 are what I think are the two most relevant ones, and I decided that I had to at least check the other side of it out seriously if I really believed that." This isn't the only reason however. Torvalds admitted: "Oh, and part of it is that I got the machine for free. I'm really a technology whore." Torvald revealed that he was no longer using a x86 processor in his main desktop machine in a forum posting in February, despite the fact that he had "single-handedly revolutionized the use of Unix on the x86 platform, according to Silicon.com.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Best Linux Desktop distro or maybe FreeBSD?
by Abhishek Daga 04 Apr '05

04 Apr '05

> > But whats a near ideal replacement? > > Gentoo? Lindows (avoidable?). > > Just like the old adage "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" the > same is true for the Linux desktop i.e. you will get a lot of > different opinions. You will have to decide which distro works best > for you. Ah well, It is the difference of Opinions that makes horse races. I have decided to go for Sarge. The aim of getting a desktop friendly distro is to fulfil the Goal of becoming a WindowLess office (since everything will be Open) by migrating from Tata EX which is totally tied in to Microsoft platform, to Tally on Fedora/RH9/Debian. OpenOffice and Firefox pretty much cover the other major needs. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com

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Linux based Fullproof Gateway/Firewall
by aashish kunte 04 Apr '05

04 Apr '05

Dear Linuxers, I want to configure a low configuration machine (Ideally P1 or P2) With Linux Console Only, Which can work as Dedicated Internet GW/Firewall. Is there any Linux-Flavor Only giving the same ? I want only Logs to be mentained along with it ! Thanks in advance. Aashish

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Best Linux Desktop distro or maybe FreeBSD?
by Abhishek Daga 04 Apr '05

04 Apr '05

> > Winmodems are not supported due to patent and NDA issues from the > chip vendors. So buy an external modem. Or use M$ software and > grin and bear. Ok, so it's a lawyer thing not a programmer thing. Guess will just get a PCMCIA card as far as laptops are concerned. Cheap and best. For the desktops, avoiding the use of external modem. Will try and get the Conexant working at 48.8 K atleast. Anyone who thinks the challenge and a beer are enough incentives to get the drivers developed, raise your hand. > IMO Debian sarge fits the bill completely except for the internal > modem.I have completely clueless people using Sarge (including two > sixty two year olds) with tata indicom, dishnet, incable, sify etc. > They use webcams, usbflashdisks, burn cds and announce that they use > debian linux with a smirk at their peers when someone sobs about > virii, worms, spyware. So looks like this is what I should go for. Another question I had in mind was Support. In anycase support the linux is limited. You know what I mean. Not the company bag and laptop carrying, tie wearing support exec. But our regular hardware guy support person. So would choosing Debian or other over Fedora create support issues? Or given that support is so negligible anyways, it wouldnt matter if it's one distro or the other? Also no mention of FreeBSD in favor or otherwise, so I am assuming, we should stick to the server side for this. Also, is there a way I can get copies of the Sarge distro from you? I am bandwidth challenged. Muchos Gracias abhishek __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Best Linux Desktop distro or maybe FreeBSD?
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 04 Apr '05

04 Apr '05

On Monday 04 April 2005 11:35, Abhishek Daga wrote: > Having being tormented by hajaar trojans, popups on home PCs using > Windows platforms off late, I have converted them to Redhat 9.0 in > the face of lot of scepticism and criticism from other users of the > family. > > Their main concerns are: > a) Ease of use b) Ease of use. > > To be able to use linux successfully as a desktop for non power > users, these are the barriers I faced. > > a) Plug n play for devices such as USB Web cam, USB Hub, USB Card Debian sarge (PCQ DVD) works with USB hub and USB card readers. Which Camera? model no. vendor name. > Reader. b) Internal Modem Dlink 560i+++ installation woes and lack > of a versatile dialer to just click n connect for non root users. ???. KPPP is click and connect as is wvdial and pon. Just create a desktop icon to wvdial /pon and poff. Also add these users to the group dialout. Use the kuser package in kde to do this. > c) Winmodem detection and configuration woes. Winmodems are not supported due to patent and NDA issues from the chip vendors. So buy an external modem. Or use M$ software and grin and bear. > > The question is: > Which linux distribution can I use which will act as an effective > desktop for home users which will overcome atleast most of the > difficulties faced above. IMO Debian sarge fits the bill completely except for the internal modem.I have completely clueless people using Sarge (including two sixty two year olds) with tata indicom, dishnet, incable, sify etc. They use webcams, usbflashdisks, burn cds and announce that they use debian linux with a smirk at their peers when someone sobs about virii, worms, spyware. > > I am leaning towards the opinion that redhat 9.0 is not the best > out there. (duh!). > But whats a near ideal replacement? There is no replacement for GNU/Linux ;-). rgds jtd

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RE: [SPAM] - [ILUG-BOM] Best Linux Desktop distro or maybe FreeBSD? - Bayesian Filter detected spam
by Nikunj Virani 04 Apr '05

04 Apr '05

> The question is: > Which linux distribution can I use which will act as an effective desktop > for home users which will overcome atleast most of the difficulties faced > above. Try Mandrake 10.1. It is very good for desktops. Regards, Nikunj Virani

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Apologies: Subject line inappropriate
by Abhishek Daga 04 Apr '05

04 Apr '05

My previous post to the list had an incorrect subject line as a result of hitting "reply-to", to an existing mail and not making the necessary changes. It should have been titled "Which linux distribution is best for desktops" and it got incorrectly sent as part of the "TV Tuner Card" thread. apologies for the same. abhishek __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] TV Tuner
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 04 Apr '05

04 Apr '05

On Saturday 02 April 2005 00:33, Revant wrote: > Can you people suggest me any TV tuner card and related things? > What I want from it is: > 1) It MUST work on Linux (Mostly Debian/Ubuntu) > 2) It should have AV Composite so that I can play my playstation on > computer with sound > 3) It should be relatively easy to configure. I'd prefer > autodetection 4) It should be avaliable in Mumbai market .... grant > road. > > I tried My friend's BT878P+ Pixelview, It works fine and is > autodetected, Only problem is, It has only AV Composite -- Video > wire, i.e Yellow, there is no Audio Left-Right female thing on the > card, So I never got to try it with sound All BT878 cards have only a single audio output. No input. Basically sound o/p from the tuner is routed out. If you want input you need a card with a audio dsp. Afaik not yet available here. you can use the line in on your sound card. Or use RF modulated o/p of your game machine with additional spkrs connected to the sound out of the tv tuner card. rgds jtd

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Linuxers April 2005