Linuxers May 2005

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by Zainul M Charbiwala 18 May '05

18 May '05

Hello, I'm using my box as a gateway for my internal network using net.ipv4.ip_forward. I don't NAT so I don't use iptables. Is there a way that I can derive statistics about the number of connections going through the gateway? Specifically, which IP addresses are sending packets, size of packets, etc. Thanks, Zainul.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] acers latop AD: can we do something ?
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 18 May '05

18 May '05

On Friday 13 May 2005 21:44, Dinesh Joshi wrote: > >From: sherlock(a)vsnl.com > > > >Just to clear your ignorance, and inattention to detail Dell's > >standard warranty does not cover anything other than manufacturing > >defects. They have a "CompleteCover" warranty for which you pay > > more. And this warranty is valid only in some countries of > > Asia.So if u damage your laptop in London you will have to get > > back to one of these asian countries to get your warranty. > > > >But to keep the record straight the cost of the "CompleteCover" > > will determine wether it is useful to all. Imo a 15% hike in > > price would be justified. > > > >rgds > >jtd > > Ok, no offense dude Worry not. Sticks and stones may break my bones but words dont hurt me. Me is very thick skinned ;-). > but all Dell machines come with a complete > cover warranty (except the very high end ones where you get to > decide what you want). So it's a "standard" Dell warranty for which > you pay a bit more. You are right about the validity of the > warranty in Asia. You can get it "upgraded" to an International > level but for that you have to again pay more. As for me the > current warranty is good enough. Actually you will have to compare prices with a similar speced machine from whoever. You will be able to determine how much more you are paying for "CompleteCover". And by the way Dell is manufactured in China. In fact you will find it nearly impossible to get a piece of electronic equipment from any place other than China. Which means that they produce quality goods too. Most OEM factories produce stuff and sort them into a, b and c categories, a for the big brands (IBM, Sony, Matsuchita), b for their own brands (sold mostly in US, eur and gulf) and c for the importers from India and other third world countries. There is also a d category - junk - for consumables (batteries, pencils, inks, etc). We have a lot to learn about "cheap", which is mostly about efficiency and a little about cutting the right corners. You will find cheap laptop clones of IBM, Dell, Compaq etc. The price difference is a good 40 ~ 50% on the base models. If you buy the upgrades (harddisk, Wlan etc) from lamington road the difference grows by another 15%. Not to mention the fact that you are no more dependent on Dell / IBM. You are ofcourse taking a chance on the warranty. I am no fan of the Chinese - I continually pressured to readjust my bussiness to maintain margins and keep my customers happy. But that is life outside of Paradise. rgds jtd

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Debian Sarge-GDM login screen grainy
by Ninad Bapat 18 May '05

18 May '05

Hi I finally installed Debian Sarge(DVD) build date 26/4/05. After the initial configs and reading the CD I was presented with GDM login screen to my surprise the screen appeared very grainy just like what appears when one logins in safe mode in windoze. Why is this happening? Is any package missing to be installed Thanks Ninad

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Debian Sarge-GDM login screen grainy
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 18 May '05

18 May '05

On Wednesday 18 May 2005 11:16, Ninad Bapat wrote: > Hi > > I finally installed Debian Sarge(DVD) build date 26/4/05. > After the initial configs and reading the CD I was presented with > GDM login screen > to my surprise the screen appeared very grainy just like what > appears when one logins in safe mode in windoze. > > Why is this happening? > Is any package missing to be installed incorrect settings in /etc/XF86config-4 You are running X in 16bit color 640x480 or lower. check your graphics chipset and add the right driver to the above file.You might need to change the monitor settings in the file too. rgds jtd

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Re: Re: acers latop AD: can we do something ?
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 18 May '05

18 May '05

>>From: Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon(a)thenilgiris.com> >>...apparently 'shes' are not allowed on this list >I hope you're kidding :O >Dinesh Quoting Limp Bizkit.. 'Take a look around'

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[OT] Re: Re: acers latop AD: can we do something ?
by Vickram Crishna 18 May '05

18 May '05

At 1:09 PM +0530 5/17/05, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: >If it was anything else (low cost, innovation, efficiency) the >chinese would have beaten us. But not, perhaps, for their sense of civility, as we have seen after smarting from many sharp replies on this list. Actually, the Chinese (Confucius, as he is called in English) invented the civil servant, but it took Indians to raise that personage to the heights of misrule and uncivility. Even ;-) Sherlock can't begin to compete. Of course, s/he may be one, and if so, I rest my case. Unlikely, of course, as s/he does not lack for knowledge or willingness to help, if not actually suffer fools or children. -- Vickram

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Re: Re: acers latop AD: can we do something ?
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 18 May '05

18 May '05

On Tuesday 17 May 2005 17:21, Vickram Crishna wrote: > At 1:09 PM +0530 5/17/05, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > >If it was anything else (low cost, innovation, efficiency) the > >chinese would have beaten us. > > But not, perhaps, for their sense of civility, as we have seen > after smarting from many sharp replies on this list. Ah the chinese are subtle - at first. Very often silence follows after u have taken a stab at them. But the next round is a missile. U will notice this in their dealings with the Americans. Remember the Chinese-killing-India rhetoric last year. Initially there were a couple of press releases stating the figures on rice and shrimp import from India. As usual the AH's who run this country did not understand. The next round was proposed chinese sanctions on Indian exports to china, which dwarf Indian imports by an order of magnitude. The indian ministers quietly shut their mouths. End of great Indo-Chinese trade war. > > Actually, the Chinese (Confucius, as he is called in English) > invented the civil servant, but it took Indians to raise that > personage to the heights of misrule and uncivility. Even ;-) > Sherlock can't begin to compete. Of course, s/he may be one, and if > so, I rest my case. No such luck. You can either be civil or a servant. I am not a servant so I might just make to the ranks of civility. And i am not employed by the government - a very good qualification imo. > Unlikely, of course, as s/he does not lack for knowledge or > willingness to help, (Big self glorification para) My knowledge (restricted to hardware only) has steadily deteriorated after the 486 era. I did have detailed knowledge of many of the chipset schematics and registers and designed a couple of 286/386 mobos including the external glue logic and a large number of addon cards for the isa bus. The glue logic was quite substantial inspite of the chipsets. > if not actually suffer fools or children. Actually the irritation is that most posters do not make the slightest attempt to exercise their fingers on google, let alone their brains before posting. Which is so much against the libre software philosophy of making you independent and productive permanently. We should have an initiation ceremony for new members. At every meet they will sit around a burning windows cd and the list admin will deliver a homily on list ettiquitte and FSF philosophy. They will then intone the homily thrice. The smoke from the cd should drive away all but the most determined. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] need revolution os and code movie cd
by Animesh Singh 18 May '05

18 May '05

Afternoon Mr. Warren, > > Does someone have the "The Code" and "Revolution > OS" movie cds. I have lent my "The Code" movie to a > great pal and never got them back. I have code and Revolution. I can give you by this saturady evening. Regards, Animesh. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Samba perf query
by kishor bhagwat 18 May '05

18 May '05

Hi folks, Can anyone tell me how to measure SAMBA/CIFS performance in terms of IOPS on Solaris? regards, Kishor Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Debian distro difference
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 18 May '05

18 May '05

On Wednesday 18 May 2005 10:07, Ninad Bapat wrote: > Hi > > I just bought some Linux Cd's from linuxbzar. > I found > Debian v3 r5 and > Debian Sarge (25/04/05 build)(DVD) > listed there. > I have ordered for the Sarge DVD from http://www.debian.org/releases/ " The current “stable” distribution of Debian GNU/Linux is version 3.0r5, codenamed woody. It was released on April 16th, 2005. " That is Debian v3 r5 aka woody. "The “testing” distribution contains packages that haven't been accepted into a “stable” release yet, but they are in the queue for that. The main advantage of using this distribution is that it has more recent versions of software. Official security support for this distribution started May 3rd 2005." That is testing aka sarge. Sarge comes with Openoffice, 2.6 kernel, gcc3.xx KDE3.2 and newer, versions of all the packages in woody. A few orphaned packages from woody have been dropped from sarge. I am using the pcq sarge dvd. Works great. rgds jtd

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