Linuxers June 2005

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swap partitions
by Komal 26 Jun '05

26 Jun '05

What are the maximum number and size of swap partitions in Linux kernel 2.6 and 2.4? Thank you Regards Komal

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bind / named error
by saurabh daptardar 26 Jun '05

26 Jun '05

Hi, I am trying to set up DNS server (bind) on fedora core 2 (kernel 2.6) I got the following error: code: t@localhost nag2]# named -g Jun 26 22:00:47.841 starting BIND 9.2.3 -g Jun 26 22:00:47.842 using 1 CPU Jun 26 22:00:47.845 loading configuration from '/etc/named.conf' Jun 26 22:00:47.846 listening on IPv4 interface lo, 127.0.0.1#53 Jun 26 22:00:47.848 command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953 Jun 26 22:00:47.849 ignoring config file logging statement due to -g option Jun 26 22:00:47.849 couldn't open pid file '/var/run/named/named.pid': Permission denied Jun 26 22:00:47.849 exiting (due to early fatal error) I have chmod named.pid to 777 and running 'named' as root Please help me out. Regards, Saurabh

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getting started on Linux OS
by bhushan naik 26 Jun '05

26 Jun '05

hi. can the linux and windows both stay on one system? is it easy to use linux like windows on a standalone machine? can i learn to use linux basic by myself if install in on my machine? is there any site which would be helpfull? is it ok to use linux for the internet and everyday use? and where can i get the Linux OS? thank you --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.

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InkScape Presentation.
by Komal 26 Jun '05

26 Jun '05

http://www.wixsonit.com/buggerit/assets/inkscape_klug_presentation.pdf Regards, Kmal

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Re : Inquiry on training institutes on Linux (Manoj Bohara )
by Manoj Bohara 26 Jun '05

26 Jun '05

Dear Group Members , I thanks to all of you ppl for replying me back , and i also welcome all the feedbacks . I have never joined a mailing list , this is a first one i ever joined so my idea was that if we have group of ppl who know much much more better than me , so there shouldnt be any hesitation on my side to ask such a question . To the ppl who say "learn on your own ": - I sincerely thank all of you ppl for making me remember this old formula which works . I agree to it since some timeback even i was a tutor (Mathematics) . I am a strong believer of "God helps who help themselves" . However there is one more important fact that we have to accept is thatone cannot move ahead unless given the right direction and advice from the ppl who have been through the same process . Others : Friends you ppl have been very encouraging in your response to my question . I thank all of you for providing me the right resources and the right advice . Thanking all of you for all your responses , i accept and take it positvely and would not mind asking any such questions in future since this is the way we learn , isn't it (look smiley ) :- ) ? Best Wishes Manoj Bohara --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online & more. Check it out!

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] linux is costly!
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 26 Jun '05

26 Jun '05

On Sunday 26 June 2005 15:18, Trevor Warren wrote: > --- sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > In fact i have stopped talking price with customers > > (i collect > > the M$ tax u see) and focus on a zillion other > > things which shreds > > everything that billy baba and 2000xp chors can > > throw. > > [snip] > > No worries JTD, as long as we have IIM babus running > commercial organisations like those at redmond such > reports are bound to surface. > > Infact, the report did give me a lot to ponder. You > know terence, managing networks with 500-1000 nodes > with MS can be a real nightmare especially when > patching the machines on a daily basis is more of a > norm. MS has an architecture in place seamless across > distributions to push these patches across the entire > enterprise. How much of this works....you know better. they pretend to have such an architecture in place. On friday a bank had to inaugurate two branches down south. Internet ex plodder would not connect to the central server, although routes and ports were absolutely fine. so check the router, check the nics, call up regional hub at 0230 hrs. reinstall win2k. Finally re-reinstall win2k on about 25 machines with a cd from another branch everything works. The cd that came from the software repository has the latest patches and was supposed to be installed on all machines but was delayed for some reason. U can imagine the catastrophe avoided by shear luck. > > With FLOSS in a network as big as the one consisting > of 1000+ nodes you will realise that management-patch > scheduling-upgrades are the most significant part of > the TCO. snip > Having worked with numerous distros i still feel the > need for ubiquitous patch management mechanisms is a > must. Redhat with RHN comes close and but again isnt > seamless across distros, dpkg and yum are other > options which need to still scale to enterprise > requirements. Thus until this problem continues to > prevail we shall have organisations moving away from a > total migration to FLOSS. But this is a IT managment issue. Standardize the hardware first. Next standardize the distro. And have tight SLAs. Without these even FLOSS cannot generate a golden bullet. But IMO a regional repository is extremely useful in driving down costs. The bottom line is that M$ will eventually come down to a capital cost on par with FLOSS so start focussing now on the things that they simply cannot compete against. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] linux is costly!
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 26 Jun '05

26 Jun '05

On Saturday 25 June 2005 13:14, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > hows this: > http://www.indiainfoline.com/news/news.asp?dat=61173 Stupid - to put it mildly. More correctly put you would not expect the financier pay to have his pants pulled off in public. Particulary one as disease ridden as m$. The first big hole is that the survey questionaire is not available. Worse the research firm Meta Group Inc who audited the survey instrument and associated cost model, are a known microsoft shill. Threat and vulnerability analysis without source code is as scientific as the daily fortune column in midday - ridiculous to say the least. So please do not post links to a study of M$ vs rest of the world. They are always funded my some M$ shill and the results are full of shit. If somone thinks that his M$ systems are cheap all the best to him while the penguins circle to pick off his business. In fact i have stopped talking price with customers (i collect the M$ tax u see) and focus on a zillion other things which shreds everything that billy baba and 2000xp chors can throw. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Inquiry about training institutes regarding Linux (ManojBohara)
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 26 Jun '05

26 Jun '05

On Thursday 23 June 2005 21:40, Manoj Bohara wrote: > Dear Members, > My name is Manoj Bohara. Friends i needed > some information regarding linux OS courses . Hi Manoj, There are a few, most prominent being RH and Novell-Suse. > I am deeply > intrested in linux system programming field. The above courses have very little to do with programming for anything, let alone the linux kernel. They're aligned towards system administration. Google to understand the various "flavours" of programming. > Also i needed guidance on how should i go about it . Reading books on systems, oses and programming is one method. Other methods could be story listening and pavlovian conditioning. The last method is in wide spread use as it produces code of a unique quality known as sphagetti. Most "programmers" know this learning and programming environment as Visual xyz, running under an os known as windows. Rumours say windows and associated apps was written by microserfs conditioned to click icons at a furious pace, which by magic produces sphagetti code. > necessary C/C++ in depth to learn such Linux subjects . One other method, in addition to the first, used widely in writing libre software is reading the source code. Both methods are highily recommended. Besides producing code of a very high quality, it is known to produce immunity to pavlovian conditioning and actually winds up teaching the reader to write code. > Thanks in anticipation Oh you are welcome ;-)). rgds jtd

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linux is costly!
by Kenneth Gonsalves 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

hows this: http://www.indiainfoline.com/news/news.asp?dat=61173 -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க!

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Are they gettitin it?
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

Not quite.But the IT ministry seems to have crwaled outa the cave. http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/applications/0,39020384,39205447,00.htm Sonia Gandhi launched distribution of 3.5million cds conatining OO and Firefox. That should deliver a neat whack to internet ex plodder. do mail the link to bank admins that dont support FF. rgds jtd

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