Linuxers October 2006

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Livecd distro or alternative required
by िऩऩाद 05 Oct '06

05 Oct '06

Hi I am working from a hotel room and have good amount of spare time on weekends. Can anyone suggest a suitable linux live cd whereby i can work on linux and save documents on to my laptop and most important learn programming. I am on a ibm t41 laptop. I have some books from where I can learn programming any other alternative similar to livecd also will be useful Ninad

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A Desktop Concept.
by Rony 05 Oct '06

05 Oct '06

Hello All, Yesterday I visited an old couple who had problems with their pc. While the problem was minor, I noticed that they were very unfamiliar to computers and were using it only to send and receive mail from their children abroad. They had noted everything down in a letter pad and would refer to it and try to figure out their way on the screen. The email program too was difficult to navigate as it had a lot of options and buttons. This kept me thinking about a desktop thats totally different from the current windows clones and is totally a reflection of real life. I recollect Rajeev demonstrating a file browser like that in the wireless LUG meet. Later when I met Krish, he told me about gnowsis http://www.gnowsis.org/ but I just visited their site today and find that it still has standard interfaces and is more dedicated to relating data rather than an innovative interface to access data. So how about a totally different desktop that actually looks like a real life situation. For example, it will have simple but large and realistic looking icons for letters/envelopes = email, documents = office suite, music system = music player, television = movie player etc. Now come the main part. There should be no windows as we use today. An email program should open up graphics of a full size page with a pen on it. The user only types on that page and then presses an adjacent big button that reads 'Put letter in envelope'. Then the letter folds itself and puts itself inside a big envelope. The envelope then faces the user waiting for an email address. The email address appears as its typed and in bold letters across the envelope. Then the user chooses from 2 big buttons that read 'Post this letter' or 'Post it later'. If 'Post this letter' is selected, the envelope will drop itself inside a big red post box. Similarly, a real life photo graphics environment can be used in place of windows for office, music, video and other applications. While all this may look very silly for us, it will be a big boon for those users who feel intimidated by computers and dislike the window environment. I am sure there are projects going on in this direction but if we can be first in linux to do it, it will give linux a quantum leap into home desktops. Since linux is secure, once a firewall is running, linux will not even need an anti-virus to constantly update. This system in other Indian languages should become very popular with the rural population who has no knowledge of computers or even those who are semi literate. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

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problem with ubuntu
by bombay news 05 Oct '06

05 Oct '06

Dear all, I wonder if this problem was caused by tinkering with Firefox's settings to enable quicker browsing. Now the entire Ubuntu OS has become unstable. I get the following error message during booting: /dev/hda7: unexpected inconsistency; Run fsck manually... An automatic file system check of the root file system failed..... A manual fsck must be performed, then file system rebooted.... so how to perform manual fsck? also there is something about badblocks on the Internet. How to turn these into good blocks? help would be appreciated. Shiv Kumar _________________________________________________________________ Live the life in style with MSN Lifestyle. Check out! http://content.msn.co.in/Lifestyle/Default

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Re: GLUG BoF meet
by Roshan 05 Oct '06

05 Oct '06

--Philip Tellis wrote: > There is no glug meet. There's a BoF. Sorry, mixed it up. So is the GLUG BoF confirmed? > What is a BoF? > birds of feather flock together And to add a little more follow the URL below http://foss.in/2006/info/BoF __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Re: GLUG BoF meet
by Roshan 05 Oct '06

05 Oct '06

> Philip Tellis wrote: > > > > > > Why don't you meet up at Shah Tea stall at Wadala > (halfway between > > Wadala Station and 5 Gardens). Have Badshah > special chai and then go > > down to 5G for Chaat. Whatever you do, do not > meet in a classroom. This > > is a BoF meet, not a LUG lecture. > > > > Thats fine. I hope the stall is easily visible. > Wadala, five gardens > would be very nice. But lets meet at one place so > that late comers don't > have to search the five gardens for the birds. And > what time? So where's the GLUG meet final location? I think the RSVP idea is good. In french, it stands for Répondez S'il Vous Plaît (meaning reply please ..no..I don't know french, but found this in the Oxford Dictionary) though I initially thought it stood for Resource Reservation Protocol [in a way true...] __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Re: RHCE certification
by Roshan 05 Oct '06

05 Oct '06

> Hi AA. > > Don't worry too much about certifications. You > should be looking to > gain knowledge and expertise. Look for an expert who > can teach you > linux in a very lucid way. Install linux at home an > experiment on it. > That IMHO is the best way. I do agree with this. However, there is one thing I would like to ask. Do these certifications have content that build up a strong foundation for the candidate who opts for a such a ceritification? For example, if Mr. X knows addition of two numbers then a. He can add five numbers by adding two at a time (i.e. 1+2+3+4+5 will be added as (1+2)-> (3+3) -> (6+4)... b. He can subtract numbers i.e. (add a postive and a negative number 3 + (-8) ) etc. etc. If they do, then won't they be more valuable? __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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RHCE certification
by A A 04 Oct '06

04 Oct '06

Hello all, I wonder if this is the appropriate forum to post my query. I'm Linux newbie, very much interested to learn and share about Linux. I have heard about RHCE certification being one of the hottest in 2006. Seeking advice if joining a coaching class at RH authorised centre is MANDATORY which I think charges quite a bit. I wish to know if any of you is RHCE certified but gained the training elsewhere thru a friend/ Linux expert in Mumbai at comparatively lower cost. If so, please let me know the contact person. Thanks in advance AA --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com

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Re: GLUG BoF meet
by Roshan 04 Oct '06

04 Oct '06

--Anurag <anurag(a)gnuer.org> wrote: > Five Gardens sounds fine. Time around 7PM. Is that > fine with everyone? Its fine with me too. > Those who were there for Jan 2006 meet might already > know this place. I wasn't there. But if it closer and can be located from Ruia College, I think I should reach Five Gardens. __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Re: GLUG BoF meet (Anurag)
by Vihan Pandey 04 Oct '06

04 Oct '06

> From: Anurag <anurag(a)gnuer.org> > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] GLUG BoF meet > > Kenneth Gonsalves will be in city this week. We are planning to have a BoF > meet on 5th Oct evening at some place. Can list members suggest some good > place where all of us can meet? > > Hi Anurag, i guess we also ought to consider how many people are coming on the 5th. It would be great if you could allow people to RSVP you, that way we can get an estimate of the actual number attending and accordingly select a place. Thanks for the info, Regards, - vihan

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Re: [Fwd: LinuxThane 2006] (Mrugesh Karnik)
by Vihan Pandey 04 Oct '06

04 Oct '06

Hi Mrugesh, I have a suggestion. FSF should stop being so hypocritic and start using > a term like FOSS/Linux that signifies Freedom. By using GNU/Linux, > you're stealing the credit from the likes of Xorg and KDE. If you're > really concerned about freedom, start highlighting freedom, not your > own name. The issue is that ``certain organisations/people" don't care and don't want to care about how and why the Free Software movement started, but use software nevertheless. In the process, that concept and ideology for which everything that was initiated is lost. A good example is khadi. Any/Every one who wears khadi garments mainly do it out of a fashion statement or its ``technical/material benefits" in any weather. Nobody(or may be one in lakh) would really say talk about how khadi came into being or what it stands for. Thus it becomes necessary to continue the activism to keep people aware of the cause. Lest it be forgotten. Oh and before anyone starts a flame war, I am a fan of the GNU > philosophy. But that doesn't mean that I have to like or agree with > everything that FSF or RMS say or do. i agree with you completely on the flame war bit AND that you have very much a right to your opinion. But remember IF tomorrow that `right' is taken away from you too will HAVE to take steps to get it back and make sure it is NEVER revoked for you or anyone else. Regards, - vihan

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Linuxers October 2006