Linuxers October 2006

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] need a tally alternative on gnu/linux.
by Abhishek Daga 17 Oct '06

17 Oct '06

>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ---- From: jtd <jtd(a)mtnl.net.in> To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 5:17:58 PM Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] need a tally alternative on gnu/linux. Solemn promise KG. There is a hughe opportunity for everyone here. And KG do flame me if i am not doing my bit (honest - if u want me to work). <<<<<<<<<< Frankly, this is a job now. So everyone involved has the right to flame the others not putting in their bit. KG, when will you be in mumbai next? What about the bangalore guys? Chennai? Pune? Surely they must be thinking about this too? -abhishek

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux compatible motherboards.
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 16 Oct '06

16 Oct '06

>> I use system-config-soundcard to set the sound card volume levels to >> full. Then did: >> [rishi@Sunflower ~]$ sudo /sbin/alsactl store 1 >> [rishi@Sunflower ~]$ sudo /sbin/alsactl restore 1 >> On running system-config-soundcard the volumes are again at the >> mid-point of the bar. > I believe you should use store 0 and restore 0 The same problem. -- "India is not, as people keep calling it, an underdeveloped country, but rather a developed nation in an advanced state of decay." --Shashi Tharoor

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Linux on 102 GGC
by Rony 16 Oct '06

16 Oct '06

Hello All, Kubuntu 6.06 live + installation cd was tried out on a P4 2.8 GHz. single core with Intel original 102 GGC motherboard and 1 GB RAM. The live session booted well with a successful startup sound and video resolution was good too. The client had to leave so that was the only test done but it will be installed in his system in a few days as dual boot. So now Intel 102 GGC buyers can go the linux way. Regards, Rony. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Pitching Linux to corporates?
by Dinesh Joshi 16 Oct '06

16 Oct '06

Hi list, A recent experience has left me horrified. I was recently at an Airtel relationship center. Their PoS terminal for paying bills via cash/cheques was running windoze ( Some NT variant ). To my horror the system constantly kept on popping up a message - "You have been infected by ...blah blah blah....". This message was of some vague antivirus but not the well known McAffee or Norton. If their PoS running windoze can get infected with a virus then what about the data of countless customers inside that terminal? Afterall it is connected to the internet and anybody can easily hijack it! :O [rant] I am not an Airtel customer anymore but I really wish they continue using Windoze and go out of business soon... :/ May they crash and burn in hell until eternity! >:( [/rant] Ahem...shouldn't somebody bring this to the notice of the media? I mean I can imagine the amount of negative publicity it can bring to M$ ( and not to mention Airtel hahahahaa... ). Weren't their website so insecure that anybody could easily get the itemized bills of any arbitrary customer? So this got me thinking...with the recent "awareness" of better security in the digital domain shouldn't these corporates use Linux based solutions which are inherently more secure AND stable? What is stopping the adoption of Linux?? -- Dinesh A. Joshi

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[Article] Why argue about dynamic versus static languages when you can use both?
by Navneet Karnani 15 Oct '06

15 Oct '06

Something interesting for people to read. - Navneet

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Re: RMS' visit to NIT Hamirpur
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 15 Oct '06

15 Oct '06

> Best of luck organising Thanks. :-) > and great job convincing your college > management to let him speak. Would have loved to visit Himachal this > time of the year, but have to hold the fort in Mumbai :-) Not much convincing was needed actually. If the Free Software Movement, and GNU Project does not convince them, then RMS' connections with MIT, Harvard, and USA surely do! :-D Cheers, Debarshi -- "India is not, as people keep calling it, an underdeveloped country, but rather a developed nation in an advanced state of decay." --Shashi Tharoor

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Chipset and Original Motherboard
by Vihan Pandey 15 Oct '06

15 Oct '06

> > Except for Devdas who is not a follower of GNU, no other supporter of > > Erm, come again? I follow the GNU philosophy (important). I do not say > GNU/Linux (far less important). i agree with you there. It's more important that one believes in the GNU philosophy and is aware of the differences between GNU and Linux rather than waste time and bandwidth fighting. In retrospect i remember something that Mark Shuttleworth said during his last visit to India. ``People from two different groups may agree with each other on 99% of things, but will kill each other over the remaining 1%" :-) Regards, - vihan

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[OT] Chipset and Original Motherboard
by Roshan 15 Oct '06

15 Oct '06

I have been, in the past distinguishing Original and Chipset motherboard. The former is described as one with Chipsets (on the motherboard) manufactured by Intel themselves along with the board. So, if I say, Intel Original Motherboard, I mean the motherboard, along with the chipsets on it, are manufactured by Intel. The latter is described as one with Chipsets (on the motherboard) manufactured by Intel, but the motherboard manufactured by a third party such as HIS, VIA, Gigabyte, MSI etc. Am I correct? The cost of VIA, HIS, Gigabyte etc. is compartively less. I have understood them this way, as this is a colloquial followed by most vendors at Lamington Road :). Please correct me if I am using terms wrongly. To be slightly on topic, have Linux distro users on this list, used motherboads manufactured by HIS, VIA,etc. (Not many have replied to Mr. Rony's question of compatible motherboard) -- http://www.linuxreality.com (Podcasts also for LINUX USERS) __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] need a tally alternative on gnu/linux.
by Abhishek Daga 14 Oct '06

14 Oct '06

<<<<<<<<<< ----- Original Message ---- From: Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon(a)au-kbc.org> To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 7:53:52 AM Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] need a tally alternative on gnu/linux. all true - http://avsap.sourceforge.net <--- pretty old now, but in about 6-7 languages. frankly i got frustrated as a lot of people were very enthusiastic about helping/contributing until it actualy came to the point of doing work ... I have rewritten the underlying accounting engine, a demo of which can be seen at http://avsap.org.in (note, this demo is in plone, but no way is avsap ever going to be in plone) >>>>>>>>>>>> guilty as charged. Couldnt get it installed, so interest waned. But the requirement is still there.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linus on Linux and the GPLv3
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 14 Oct '06

14 Oct '06

>>> Hehehe. Thank you. Exactly what I needed to hear from an FSF >>> representative. Now would you be so kind as to make sure everyone >>> who tries to spread GNU philosophy is clear upon this point? >> What do you mean? I think you never needed to hear anything from any >> FSF representative. You need to tender an apology. Pray do not start >> throwing mud around, and then do a 'hehehe'. Get me one GNU hacker >> who said Linux is owned by GNU. > No. No apology in this case. I am not simply throwing mud. It is a fact. > Hence what I said above.. please make sure that all the GNU fans are > clear upon this matter. I was having this argument during RMS' recent > lecture. No apology. I apologise when I think I must. Look at the list > archives for proof of that. Can not do it. Internet connection is too slow at the moment. But I will take your word for it. > Btw. I never said GNU `hacker'. I said GNU `fans'. Define 'fan'. Do not start blaming GNU/FSF/RMS for what a GNU 'fan' says. Let the fans fan their opinions. FSF/GNU/RMS never claimed Linux was made by the GNU project although they do appreciate it being available today under a free software license, and not a proprietary one. How can the FSF make sure every one who talks about Software Freedom, Free Software, GNU is not arrogant, fanatical, etc.? Even Christ and The Prophet failed to ensure this. I think "it is best to be Christ or Buddha, than a Christian or a Buddhist". -- Microsoft does have a Y2K problem... it's called GNU/Linux!

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