Linuxers March 2009

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[OT] New Wireless Broadband USB Modems.
by Rony 30 May '09

30 May '09

Hello, Reliance and Tata Indicom have now come out with USB modems that provide broadband speeds theoretically upto 3.1 Mbps in major cities with National low speed roaming in other areas. A client of mine told me that his friend uses a Reliance one and clocked upto 1.5 Mbps on it. Reliance promo emails mention peak hour speeds between 512K and 1Mbps. Tata also provides a wireless router that talks wirelessly to the tower and provides a wired+wireless LAN for the office. MTNL and BSNL broadband are getting competition. Great! Now use your note/netbooks for video conferencing on the move. No more linesman telling you that your modem or wiring is bad. Is this the 3G thing by the back door before the licenses are issued or something in between, before 3G makes a big bang? Will 3G bring in something even newer? -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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Which is the cheapest hand-held available?
by Deboo 29 May '09

29 May '09

Which is the cheapest / low-cost hand-held computer (not mobile phone) available which even a por man anywhere in India can buy with little money? If it can run linux, great.

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Fedora 10 DVDs
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 02 Apr '09

02 Apr '09

Hi, I have got a spindle of brand new F10 DVDs and some nice F10 stickers. If there are people who want the same, please contact me offlist. I can't send them by courier unless the cost is taken care of, so in effect we have to arrange for a meeting somewhere in Mumbai, Navi Mumbai or better yet - New Panvel ( where I live ) :). Cheers! Pradeepto -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://www.kde.in Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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Webcam not working on Ubuntu
by sushanth poojary 31 Mar '09

31 Mar '09

hey, I have been trying to get this webcam to work on ubuntu though it gets detected, the video is not getting captured i have been using cheese to do that any help on this would be great. I have provided output values of a few commands to show how its getting detected *sushanth@sushanth:~$ lsusb Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0c45:613b Microdia Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:c517 Logitech, Inc. LX710 Cordless Desktop Laser Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 * sushanth@sushanth:~$ ls -l /dev/video* crwxrwxr-x 1 root video 81, 0 2009-04-01 01:03 /dev/video0 Regards, Sushanth Poojary

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HP lj1007 printer not working in ubuntu
by sameer shinde 31 Mar '09

31 Mar '09

Hi All, As the subject of this post shows, I'm using Ubuntu Linux 8.04 / 8.10 on which I've connected HP LaserJet P1007 printer with the USB port. The printer is getting detected in the system but when I shoot any document to the printer, the prints does not printed on the printer. The documents get spooled out of the system & shows that, it is printed successfully on the printer, but it is not printed If I connect another USB printer like HP LaserJet 3005 on the same system, then it can print on that printer( on 3005). If the same printer (LaserJet P1007) I connect to the windows xp system, the printer works properly giving all the prints. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sameer Shinde. M:- +91 98204 61580 Millions saw the apple fall, but Newton was the one who asked why.

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Check out for Freedom Toaster locations
by Joju Joshua 30 Mar '09

30 Mar '09

Hi, India's Freedom Toaster location updated in Freedom Toaster main site. Check out: http://www.freedomtoaster.org/node/14 -- Joju Joshua Zyxware Technologies Trivandrum www.zyxware.com Ph: +91-471-243-7711 >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------< "Be the change you wish to see in the world" M K Gandhi >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------<

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Display problem Asus P5VD2-VM SE
by Mukesh Yadav 29 Mar '09

29 Mar '09

Hi, Today I was installing Mint 5 on my firends PC, he is using Asus P5VD2-VM SE. live CD boots normally but When It go to DEsktop it looks something like this. http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00719kc1.jpg this is not my image but it looks the same when I run live cd. any help will appreciated. -- P. J. O'Rourke - "If government were a product, selling it would be illegal."

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[OT] Suggest an ISP in Mumbai
by Dinesh A. Joshi 29 Mar '09

29 Mar '09

Warning: This post contains strong language. Reader discretion is advised. Hi, So the jackasses of MTNL have ****** up a perfectly working setup at my place in Mumbai. Now my old folks are left without Internet. So I'm thinking of adding a redundant line. They dont require anything fancy - a volume based plan and a low latency connection ( for VoIP ) would be required at the very least. Reliance has cabling but I was burnt the last time I used their services. They're supposed to have improved since then but I dont want to fall into *that* trap once again. Recommendations are welcome. - Dinesh

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[X-Post] Mumpy - Python Users Group Meeting
by Mehul Ved 29 Mar '09

29 Mar '09

Hello everyone, Mumpy will be organising the Python User's Group meet this Sunday 29th January 2009. Time :- 3:30 p.m Location :- Directi, 330, Link-way Estate, Near Inorbit Mall, Linking Road, Malad (West), Mumbai - 400064. The session will be conducted by Baishampayan Ghose on "Starting with Simple Python Applications using Google App Engine". For further details check the wiki page for the meeting at http://mumpy.org/wiki/Directi29032009 The session will be a hands on practical session so please get your laptops along to make the most out of the session. And don't forget to charge your laptop battery before reaching the venue as there will not be enough plug points. Also, before the meeting do remember to create your Google App Engine account(http://appengine.google.com/) and download the App Engine SDK(http://code.google.com/appengine/downloads.html). -- Higher education helps your earning capacity. Ask any college professor.

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[X-Post] Freenode is looking for donations
by Parthan SR 29 Mar '09

29 Mar '09

--------- Forwarded Content -------------- I will try to keep this brief and to the point. This message has been cross posted to several lists which will explain why you might get more than one copy. I hope you find it informative too. Send all flames to me, not to the lists. I'm taking off the other hats I wear for a moment to ask for you or your company's support of Freenode [1] (technically the Peer-Directed Projects Center or PDPC) now based in the United Kingdom. For those that don't know, Freenode is an IRC [2] network supporting Open Source and Free Software communities globally. Another PDPC activity is the annual FOSSCON conference in the fall. PDPC is specifically [3] raising funds in order to be recognized by the UK as an official charitable organization. This status has many benefits, however they need to raise a certain amount of money by March, 2009. There are just a few days left in the fundraising campaign. Canonical Ltd. (the company created by Mark Shuttleworth that drives Ubuntu Linux) has graciously stepped forward to provide dollar for dollar matching, magnifying the impact of your donations to PDPC. The fund raising goal has almost been reached but your contribution is needed. Brainstorming by the PDPC board of directors for how to use any funds not used for operations includes hosting live conference events in Europe and the US, extending current services and improving the reliability of the freenode network by hosting a few of their own hubs and backup systems. Freenode is growing rapidly [4] supporting up to 57,000 concurrent users up from a maximum of about 40,000 18 months ago. Some people may not be aware that IRC is used by a huge array of Open Source and Free Software projects. The list of groups [5] Freenode works with is truly impressive. I feel it is not at all hyperbole to say that the work done over freenode and OFTC [6] are the real-time backbone of open source collaboration throughout the world, Coders use the IRC network to develop applications used by millions of people every day and provide *end user support*. If you use any open source software you may be an indirect beneficiary of the services Freenode provides. I encourage those who are interested to try launching an IRC client such as Pidgin [7] and see for yourself. You won't be sorry you did. While I have used Freenode for many years, this year I too became a contributor for the first time. For a one time contribution http://freenode.net/pdpc_donations.shtml of as little as $8 you can join me in supporting Freenode and the many Open Source projects they serve. Thanks for your consideration, -- -- Grant Bowman <grantbow(a)gmail.com> [1] http://freenode.net/pdpc_donations.shtml http://fosscon.org/about/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat is a form of group instant messaging first used in 1988. Related sites include http://www.irchelp.org/ and http://www.irc.org/ [3] http://blog.freenode.net/2008/10/fundraising-for-charity-status/ http://blog.freenode.net/2009/03/20082009-fundraiser-campaign-update/ [4] http://freenode.net/history.shtml also http://searchirc.com/network/Freenode [5] http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml include the Apache Software Foundation, Canonical Ltd (Ubuntu), Creative Commons Corporation, Free Software Foundation (GNU Project), Mozilla Foundation (Firefox), MySQL AB, NetBSD Foundation, Open Darwin Foundation (Apple builds OSX using Darwin), OpenOffice.org, Red Hat, Inc. & the World Wide Web Consortium among others. [6] OFTC is a a similar but much smaller IRC network. See "Freenode and OFTC IRC networks buddy up", May 2007 http://www.linux.com/articles/62098 also http://searchirc.com/network/OFTC [7] http://pidgin.im is an IRC client that runs on Windows, Mac and Linux formerly named Gaim. http://www.mirc.com/ is also popular on the Windows platform. ---------- End -----------------

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Which USB web camera models compatible with ubuntu 8.10
by jitendra 28 Mar '09

28 Mar '09

I need to buy one. Creative web camera (exact model not known, purchased about 2 years ago)does not work. Can any one guide please Do I need to give any more info? -- jitendra

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CPI(M) manifesto calls for promotion of Free and Open Source Software (FOSS)
by vinay ವಿನಯ್ 27 Mar '09

27 Mar '09

Dear All, The political support for Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) continues to increase. The CPI(M) manifesto released on the 16th of March calls for the promotion of FOSS. The manifesto can be accessed at http://www.cpim.org/manifesto.pdf Following are some of the highlights of the policy - - Promoting FOSS and other such new technologies, which are free from monopoly ownership through copyrights or patents; - Revamping the functioning of the Patent offices to ensure strict adherence to the Indian Patent Act; Stop training and orientation of Indian Patent office personnel by the US and European Patent offices These above measures are critical to support the public education system, local economy and the knowledge commons and counter neo-liberal pressures that aim to privatize the public information/knowledge domain. The CPI(M) has been a traditional supporter of free software, the comprehensive IT programs in Kerala, including in the public school system (http://itschool.gov.in/otherprograms.php#6) is based on FOSS. With key parties from both the left and the right end of the political spectrum endorsing FOSS, the Congress is left as the only major national party which is yet to formally take a position on FOSS. One hopes that the Congress too will soon extend its support for free software when it releases its own manifesto next week, and explicitly acknowledge the significant political, socio-cultural and economic advantages of FOSS over proprietary software platforms (see http://public-software.in/FOSS-manifesto for a call from the Network of the FOSS Community in India to the political parties, to recognise the advantages of FOSS in their election manifestos). Thanks, Vinay.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linuxers Digest, Vol 71, Issue 61
by Ashok Sinha 26 Mar '09

26 Mar '09

I got these 2 error msgs today [root@localhost user]# /etc/init.d/bluetooth start Can't open RFCOMM control socket: Address family not supported by protocol [root@localhost user]# hciconfig -a Can't open HCI socket.: Address family not supported by protocol

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[Commercial] LAMP developer requirements
by Anurag 26 Mar '09

26 Mar '09

Hello! A friend of mine is looking for people to work on PHP/MySQL projects. If you know anyone looking for new opportunities then drop me an email. The requirement needs to be filled urgently. Anurag -- http://web.gnuer.org/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] SSH Problem Someone who can help ?
by Raghu Prasad 26 Mar '09

26 Mar '09

> I have a small problem here which I wish to describe as an > example.OK so here it is .I have a client and a server both UNIX boxes.I > wish to run SFTP on the client as user A and authenticate as user B on the > server which is going to be accomplished using a script.Se user A is the > owner of the script and he authenticates to server as user B .Now the > problem is when the authentication happens it asks for a manual password > entry which doesn't make sense .I have used ssh rsa keys ..but still no > solution as the authentication needs to be automatic.Any solution to the > problem is welcome Are you able to connect to the server via ssh without password? If not, there could be permission problems in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file. The ssh daemon doesn't allow using that file if it is not well protected from other users. Try the following (assuming the user to be B) on the server where sshd is running: chmod 750 ~/.ssh/ chown B.root ~/.ssh/ chmod 640 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys chown B.root ~/.ssh/authorized_keys As suggested in other posts, expect is needed to write scripts using interactive programs like telnet and ftp. I always prefer scp over sftp. Raghu

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SSH Problem Someone who can help ?
by PenguinPuPPy 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

Hello There, I have a small problem here which I wish to describe as an example.OK so here it is .I have a client and a server both UNIX boxes.I wish to run SFTP on the client as user A and authenticate as user B on the server which is going to be accomplished using a script.Se user A is the owner of the script and he authenticates to server as user B .Now the problem is when the authentication happens it asks for a manual password entry which doesn't make sense .I have used ssh rsa keys ..but still no solution as the authentication needs to be automatic.Any solution to the problem is welcome Thanks Penguinpuppy -- To Love The Penguin(aka TUX) You Need To Be As Faithful As A Puppy

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Looking for "C Programmers"
by Siji Sunny 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

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USB bluetooth dongle driver
by Ashok Sinha 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

Dear experts, I have a usb dongle for bluetooth i use with winXP. Is is possible to get a linux driver. Linpuslinux- Fedora(?) I plugged it in but the system showed no signs of recognizing it. I am not a SW guy so dont tell me to write it myself! Thanks -- Ashok Sinha

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[HW] pci express SATA II add on cards
by Arun Khan 24 Mar '09

24 Mar '09

I am looking for a 2-4 port SATA II add on card, with Linux support, that goes into a PCI express slot. Anyone know of any brand/retailer @ Lam. Rd that carries above? Please let me know. I have a couple of PCI SATA cards but they are keyed to fit in the 5.0V PCI slots only. TIA -- Arun Khan

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Debian install query
by Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. 22 Mar '09

22 Mar '09

I finally decided to ditch Kubuntu due to multile problems. I tried Mandriva and was completely floored by the install progress. It offered me the option of using ndiswrapper for my wifi card right during the install and the card came up automatically after the install. Clean interface. But I don't want to start a new learning curve right now. But it's definitely going into a vmware vm soon. So back to good old debian. First I got the netinst cd and then tried the debain-kde cd. So far so good. It asked for the isl3886 firmware from a new medium but that was that. The wifi card did not work after the install. Not debian's fault because I haven't been able to get the card working with anythng but ndiswrapper. Even though this was a 'full' cd, the install insisted on downloading a hell of a lot of files (more than 50 or so). Then after the full install was over and I had rebooted and ran apt-update and apt-get upgrade, it wanted to delete almost 40 files using apt-get auto-remove. If I try to install without using a net mirror, the sources.list is bare except for the cdrom line. Now I want to install debian on another machine at a different location. Seeing as how I've already dowloaded all these files on one machine, how can I use this to avoid downloading them again for the second install. What are the options available ? What I was thinking is install without a net mirror, and then copy over the sources.list and the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives to the new machine and then run apt-get update and upgrade. The second machine is at my clinic and I cannot afford to mess with it too much. It's still running kubuntu 8.04 and is not much trouble but I'd rather run one distro on both my main machines. thank you, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K R Pavri. Homoeopath, Linuxer. My family history begins with me, but yours ends with you. -- Iphicrates.

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dealing with flamers
by Suhit Kelkar 21 Mar '09

21 Mar '09

Many times flamers (we know who you are) think nothing of wasting public resources, others' time, and polluting public forums with things best not said. Since their statements are not strictly on the foul side of the moderation guidelines, IMO, they cannot be blocked from the list. In any case that's a dangerous trend. So what do you and I do? Do we put up with their tasteless emails, do we allow them to spread their ill cheer to us across the pipes? There is still something we can do. It's called cold treatment. Flamers are usually after recognition and attention. (Begin fictionalised quote) "I'm important! I can string a sentence together! I've been ignored all my life! YOU CAN'T IGNORE ME NO MORE! I CAN WIN TOO! YES I CAN! NO, REALLY! Here-- no, don't look away! Hey, LOOK AT ME! I have my worth, really! If you won't admire me, I'll FLAME YOU! I'm cool! I'm not worthless, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not! LOOOOOOK AT ME, WOOOOOAAAAAAH!" (End fictional quote) Flamers usually self-destruct if we give them the cold treatment. This is well-known, though it takes time. Even hardened prisoners usually come quiet at the prospect of solitary confinement. These flamers aren't evil. Let us isolate them. Let them shout their inanities to silence. They need a captive audience. But we refuse to be captive. Let us deny them the attention they crave, and watch them shrivel and shrink away. All we need is to stick to it.

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Best leave management system.
by Sachin 21 Mar '09

21 Mar '09

Hi, Can anybody point to me *free* good leave management system where employees can submit leave, get approved or declined on linux. 1. Get info on no of days leave taken 2. Leaves remaining. 3. Payslip details. etc Came across OrangeHRM but was not happy with that. Linux network gurus: Any suggestions ? --Sachin Check out the all-new face of Yahoo! India. Go to http://in.yahoo.com/

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Economic Times - there is no open source virtualization solution
by Arun Khan 20 Mar '09

20 Mar '09

The article is dated 13/Mar/09 out of Chennai. Per Mr. Sinha, CTO Times Business Solutions, there is no open source virtualization solution. <quote> However, companies looking at resource optimization holistically are also keen on virtualisation, for implementing which, there is no open source software. “However, virtualized hardware supports open source applications easily,” </quote> Read more at: <http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Infotech/Internet_/Web_based_companies_…> You will also come to know that MySQL has become MySequel ... Please send your comments to the Editor ET (editet(a)timesgroup.com) requesting him/her to check facts before putting it on the web site. Also, submit your view under the "comments" section of the article. -- Arun Khan

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use of expletives on the FOSS list
by Suhit Kelkar 19 Mar '09

19 Mar '09

I do not know the persons in a recent flamewar, one of whom called the other an 'asshole' and the other, who apparently because of extreme vituperativeness in another flamewar has been blocked from the list. So, purely because of the use of the expletive, I also vote in favour of expelling the member who used it from the linuxers list. No matter who you are, no matter how powerful you are in the little Indian FOSS frogpond, you cannot get away with something like this or, can you? Guess that depends on the forum. And even usually dormant members do no like to get cusswords in their mailbox. If others too believe in the one person one vote principle, they should vote in this matter. If expletives are allowed today, tomorrow the atmosphere of the list could end up poisoned. Suhit Kelkar.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linuxers Digest, Vol 71, Issue 36
by Ashok Sinha 18 Mar '09

18 Mar '09

A Acer Aspire One is 17300 at lamington rd. I agree on the poorman bit. The only way the poor can have access to computer is free computer (cybercafes) in slum areas. Laptops are a long way from the poor. > > A handheld is more expensive than a cell phone. > If you are talking of eepcs LG is Rs.17500 afaik. > > Wonder what poorman would afford that. > > What exactly do you have in mind? > > > -- > Rgds > JTD > > > -- > http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > -- Ashok Sinha

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