Linuxers July 2001

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Who owns an IP address
by Ninad Gupte 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

If the IP is say 202.54.1.18 whois 202.54.1.18(a)whois.apnic.net shud give u the results. Similarly, non-Asian IPs can be found at whois.arin.net Regards, Ninad At 01:48 PM 7/24/01 +0530, you wrote: >How do I find out who owns a particular IP address? Where do I have to >look for this? nslookup turns a blank if there is no dns entry for it. > >Philip > >-- >"If you want to eat hippopatomus, you've got to pay the freight." >-- attributed to an IBM guy, about why IBM software uses so much memory > > >Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ >Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ > > MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis > >_______________________________________________ >Linuxers mailing list >Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Telnet
by Deepak Kashyap 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

Check for firewall rules use lokkit for this AT COMMAND prompt with root access. bye --- Haig Earl <earl_haig(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > >--- Darshan.wakchaure(a)lntinfotech.com wrote: >> >> Helo Krishnan, >> inetd folder as well as inetd.conf file is not >> there. I am using version >> 7.1 > >check /etc/xinetd/(whatever) > >cheerio, >- sagar. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ >_______________________________________________ >Richard Stallman's Public Lecture 5pm 17th July, at TIFR. >Linuxers mailing list >Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers _____________________________________________________________ Get your own OYE ID at http://www.oye91.com

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Help !!! HELP !! Newbie
by Deepak Kashyap 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

Hello, I am having a few problems. I use a cross over utp cable to connect my win box to LINUX box I am able to ping each other's Ip from another computer that means the connection works. I have enabled the FTP Telnet and Http from NETSYSV to run at boot time This is what I want to achieve 1.proxy through linux 2. remote admin through Windows 3.running web server on linux I am unable to open http:// of linux box though linux can approach the localserver as well as the web server on my Win box. using http://90.0.1.0 What is the problem here ? Deepak _____________________________________________________________ Get your own OYE ID at http://www.oye91.com

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distro with 2.4 kernel
by Kishor Bhagwat 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

hello! does our LUG have any CDs with the 2.4 kernel? preferably Debian or SuSE.. i remember Prakash (shetty) announcing something abt suse boxes.. regards, kishor _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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indian kernel hackers
by Somesh Agarwal 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

hi all , I wasn'ted to find out if similar to liner kernel hackers is there similar interest group in India , or people who are currently contributing to the open source projects (even if it is not linux) .. thanks somesh

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lilo change order
by TRIPTPAL SINGH LAMBA 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

Hello list. I am using LILO at boot time. IF I want to change the default boot sequence from Red hat 6.2 to dos/win , how do i do it . Do i have to do something to the lilo.conf ? Also I get 2 messages a day , frm the list . How do I prevent this ? Triptpal Singh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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changing hostname
by Nikhil Joshi 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

I tried to change my hostname from the file /etc/hosts but the hostname remained the same.Now I found this /etc/sysconfig/network file which had my hostname.I changed the hostname and now my hostname is changed. Is this the correct procedure to change the hostname ? Now when I run startx I seem to get following message: hostname lookup failure I can't read all the messages as the x server now displays the gray screen. I can work normally with the net and mail. How can I redirect the messeges of x server? I tried using startx >> ~/temp but nothing is written to the temp file. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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GNU/Linux (start luv all)
by Anand 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

> > > > > hi, > > i have just started with linux but i don't know what > are the various commands and their use so is there any > good book or some tutorial which will help me. > > thanks > Hello Ketan, First Ketan after Stallman's lecture yesterday, i suppose we have to start by calling it GNU/Linux. >From my experience, I will give you this sound advise: 1. In the initial stages work in GUI. You will find that all applications work exactly the same way as in windows which i am sure you are familiar with now. If by chance youcome to command line, then login giving username and password and give command startx. click and explore. Make unashamed use of Netscape, Rhpppd, RHppp configuration etc. 2. Get the Linux HOW-TO's. read the how-to's at a snails pace digesting all the applicable How-to's. 3. Whenever you get to a problem with a word that you do not understand then type man followed by the word that you did not understand. for example if you do not understand man then type man man. Over a period of time you will have substantial confidence. At this stage purchase good books on GNU/Linux (i found Unleashed helpful), Ibelieve that the current issue of PCQ also has several help files. I have purchased and am going to read it. Next issue of PCQ is slated for more GNU/Linux goodies so i won't miss that too. Don't listen to those masochists who will want you to stick to command line and learn commands and samba configuration, DHCP config on day 1. This needs to be done but later. GNU/Linux isno longer a Geeks software anymore but a common mans tool. Anand

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My two bits about the Aazad and the Commercial
by Q u a s i 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

Folks, I think Philip said "It's okay to use windows if you use a pirated copy. Just don't pay Microsoft for it." come come, people! Was he really serious? No one, repeat, NO one is forcing anybody to use Microsoft products. People use them because they, for various reasons, find no better alternative. Microsoft are within their rights to charge anything they want for any part of their products (someone mentioned that you get the OS but not the API). If you do not like that but still buy them, then it is you who is the sucker, not them unethical. Microsoft is a company like any other. It is a commercial venture who has to look after the prosperity of its shareholders. They also have to protect themselves from the competition by devising schemes and strategies to beat them. In this they are no different from any other company (take the example of the Cola wars). In this business environment, the stronger, smarter one survives. Very much like nature. RMS is a person. More than that he is an academician. He is one of that breed for whom creativity is reward enough - that is their life passion. I have lived among academicians all my life. There are scientists and researchers who sweat and work their butts off, expanding the frontiers of science and human understanding - on a flat salary. Is it possible to imagine a Mathematician selling his proof for money to different Universities? Why, the mathematician who developed most of game theory, John Nash jr., on which much of modern economics is based, did not become a millionaire (or receive _any_ monetary benefit out of it). Here it is learning for the sake of the thirst, not money. Even as near as till 50 years back all pure sciences used to enjoy this kind of freedom. The freedom of not only sharing but distributing knowledge. RMS feels computers also fall into this category, he being part of the breed. I for one agree with him. Whatever, if ever, work I do in this field will be there for all. But why do we insist that everyone should follow this way of life. Trade and commerce are as old as our civilisations themselves. They have their valid place in society. For eg. Edison and the founder of Gillette tried and failed many time before they perfected and _sold_ their products. There were some like Vincent Van Gaug who painted to pass the time(to keep his sanity maybe?) and there were other who did it because some King commissioned them. Both is art. The point is, the driving force for some is money and for someone something else. We cannot call one correct and the other wrong. To make use of intellectual property for the better of all or the better of oneself has to be the decision of the intellectual himself. For whatever cribbs I have read about Microsoft and proprietary software, the best answer I can think up is the GNU & OpenSource movements themselves. These happened because someone (many ones) were dissatisfied with the situation and took steps to change things. It brought a lot of like minded people together, and they worked for the good of all. What is most, MOST important IMHO, is the availability of freedom for such behavior. People were free to choose. and they choose to change things. Other chose to stick with Microsoft(etc.). Both have their reasons and I feel both are right. As FSF is _free_ to choose and decide its ideology and strategy, so is Microsoft _free_ to choose its priorities. And so are you _free_ to choose between them and the others... This is the real freedom. Does a restaurant, who has a popular special dish, disclose its secret recipe? If people feel that they do require the source code for further modifications (I seriously doubt the number outside of computer crazies) and if Microsoft(etc.) refuses, then they have alternatives. They should and often do ignore/boycott Microsoft. But then because Microsoft does not agree with your point of view does not mean they are wrong. They never said that they are in the knowledge sharing business. They are making software which will enable you to use your hardware in such a way as to increase your efficiency(their claim), do things you could not otherwise do (mind you, here I mean for eg. the 'act of sending email' not the software to do it), and be more productive, then they are within their right to sell this software - with all strings attached. If there is any other better alternative to them available, they will be wiped out of the market. As for exorbitant charges, compare vegetable prices at Kurla and Santacruz (W). People often charge because a lot of people pay. Red Hat dares to charge Rs2000+ for their manuals (does it cost so much to print?) because they have made a name and can. In society people are driven by various things - ego, pride, creative urge, credit from others, lust or money, need for money, philanthropy etc. So long as these things adhere to the common moral code of conduct we all agree to, we can smirk at some of them but we cannot call any of them wrong. --------------------- what is it that we live this whole life for? as a human being, I feel that creating something is about the only thing... to live life day in and day out in a mundane routine is not for me... I should make a difference... walk a new path... or die trying... To want is to sin, I feel... want is recursive... with no terminating condition. The path is dangerous... but to walk it is itself a victory. knowledge is decocted essence of information... Wisdom is decocted essence of knowledge... for this we shall strive... long live the revolution... "break on through" quasi

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Re: My two bits about the Aazad and the Commercial
by Sandeep 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

Note: I do not necessarily belive in everythin I say n most o the time it is jus for the sake of argument that I will say somethin, in the hope that your argument becomes stronger through criticism. Also I have nothin in particular against Microsoft or ne one for that matter. Hate the sin n not the sinner! quasi writes: >Microsoft is a company like any other. hmm... >It is a commercial venture who has to look after the >prosperity of its shareholders. They also have to protect >themselves from the competition by devising schemes and >strategies to beat them. NOD! NOD! Totally agree. But these schemes and stratrgies have to be legal n ethical. Competition is not bad n needed even, so there r laws to regulate this. Cant say Microsoft is doin this? >In this they are no different from >any other company (take the example of the Cola wars). Cola my friend is not a functional product as software is! >In this business environment, the stronger, smarter one >survives. Very much like nature. lesse... in nature if a weak/sick offspring is born...it is damned to die. Would u do the same to u'r child? Nature my friend is not the ultimate rule book for humans atleast! The point is that in the "new" business environment, it is the smarter n faster ones that survive. Take the case of human beings...we r excellent @ survivin not because of our strength but because of our brains! >RMS is a person. More than that he is an academician. >He is one of that breed for whom creativity is reward >enough - that is their life passion. I have lived among >academicians all my life. There are scientists and >researchers who sweat and work their butts off, expanding >the frontiers of science and human understanding - on a >flat salary. Is it possible to imagine a Mathematician >selling his proof for money to different Universities? Why, >the mathematician who developed most of game theory, >John Nash jr., on which much of modern economics is based, >did not become a millionaire (or receive _any_ monetary >benefit out of it). Here it is learning for the sake of the >thirst, not money. Even as near as till 50 years back all >pure sciences used to enjoy this kind of freedom. The >freedom of not only sharing but distributing knowledge. RMS >feels computers also fall into this category, he being part >of the breed. I for one agree with him. Whatever, if ever, >work I do in this field will be there for all. But why do >we insist that everyone should follow this way of life. NOD again :) This also proves the point that none of these acads r starvin to death! They make enough, not a lot, to have a decent life. >Trade and commerce are as old as our civilisations >themselves. They have their valid place in society. For eg. >Edison and the founder of Gillette tried and failed many >time before they perfected and _sold_ their products. There >were some like Vincent Van Gaug who painted to pass the >time(to keep his sanity maybe?) and there were other who >did it because some King commissioned them. Both is art. >The point is, the driving force for some is money and for >someone something else. We cannot call one correct and the >other wrong. To make use of intellectual property for the >better of all or the better of oneself has to be the >decision of the intellectual himself. hmm.. lessay I find the cure to AIDS or CANCER n I decide that I will get immense pleasure seein ppl die because I have patented the cure n dont wann any one to avail of it. It's my decision after all as u say! The point is that, to be able to function properly (sanely) in a society we need some objective Rights n Wrongs, that generally everyone/majority will agree to. ofcource u could totally disagree with this but this is generally how most societies in the world function. >As FSF is _free_ to choose and decide its ideology and >strategy, so is Microsoft _free_ to choose its priorities. >And so are you _free_ to choose between them and the >others... This is the real freedom. This is *not* real freedom my friend. thats like sayin i have the right to kill u n u have the right to kill me. This is idealistic freedom n not pragmatic. Freedom in a social setting comes with "just" limitations. >Does a restaurant, who has a popular special dish, disclose >its secret recipe? again, ne dish is not functional in the same sense as software is. u "use" software n u "enjoy" a dish/art, from a enduser point of view. >then they are within their right to sell this software - >with all strings attached. ??? eh?..... >If there is any other better alternative to them available, >they will be wiped out of the market. Thats the point, Microsoft *kill/buys* all its alternative. >In society people are driven by various things - ego, >pride, creative urge, credit from others, lust or money, >need for money, philanthropy etc. So long as these things >adhere to the common moral code of conduct we all agree to, >we can smirk at some of them but we cannot call any of them >wrong. NOD! NOD! totally agree. emphasis on *MORAL CODE* Sandeep --- "I am better off than he(a man reputed for wisdom) is, for he knows nothing, and thinks that he knows; I neither know nor think that I know..." ~Plato ___________________________________________________________________ *FREE* Web-based Email Accounts at BOX.COM - http://www.box.com/?i=2 Access Your Email from ANYWHERE!

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