Linuxers July 2001

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[link] -- Bootstrapping a Linux system - An Analysis
by Navin Dhanuka 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

A complete understanding of the internal workings of Linux requires a lot of patience and even sacrifice because it requires a complete understanding of the architecture of the Linux Kernel. Most Linux users either don't have that much study time available or are not that interested in it, while some may have other important things to do in life. But for those of you who, like me, are interested in what happens at boot time this article will attempt to cast a little more light on the issue. >>> http://www.linux.com/learn/newsitem.phtml?sid=1&aid=12476 <<< |-------------------------| |:::::linuxCAMPUS.net:::::| |-------------------------| __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux on Palm
by mayuresh＠vsnl.com 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

Hi Vijay, Actually speaking its just plain useless to run Linux on Palm Hardware, reasons: 1. Palm uses DragonBall which does not have memory protection, hence no pre-emptive multitasking. 2. Existing Palm apps cannot run, they are built to run for PalmOS. Warm Regards, ~Mayuresh vdings(a)satyam.net.in wrote Hey check out www.linuxda.com Its a company that has linux running palm hardware You can download linux for your Palm IIIx, IIIxe, Palm Vx what I am interested in knowing from the more adventurous ones (those who try the OS) is whether my Palm apps will run on the linux OS Anyway...have fun _______________________________________________ Linuxers mailing list Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Why do we hate Windows?
by sisiro . 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

Nikhil, An interesting topic of discussion!! Linuxers hate Windoze and Micro$oft because of it's lousy ways of marketing, and business practises, and the buggy software it produces. Windoze is here to stay because of the ease of use and being popular, NOT because it is well-designed with well thought-of OS concepts. How many OS concepts of Windows do you think are original to Microsoft? For that matter, how many original ideas do you think Microsoft came up with? Ask them. They will send you a list of all the companies from where most their software has been stolen or purchased. It is not appreciated if you steal someone else's valuables and try to tell the world that it is yours. Nobody is going to have any respect towards such a person or company. There is a long list of companies that Microsoft screwed up, because they were its competetors. Have you heard of a beautiful OS called "BeOS"? Microsoft spoiled a deal that Apple was to make with Be, to implement that OS on Apple. Then, Apple went ahead on its own and came out with Mac OS X. As it has always been doing, M$ messed Be completely without mercy; without even recognizing the fact that BeOS is MUCH MORE beautiful and elegant than Windows. I agree with you that Windows is here to stay, not because of it's strength as an OS, but because of our human nature of being conservative and because of the wide variety of software/shareware available. Frankly, I would hesitate to call Windows as an Operating System. Microsoft, having some of the best talent in the world, is doing the worst job - of creating buggy software, and releasing it without checking it thoroughly. How can you think of any company to be so irresponsible towards the world, unless they are pretty sure that we are dumb? And, when someone advertise their bugs, they get annoyed and say that they have to inform Microsoft to protect the users. Funny, isn't it? They dont do their job well, and dont credit others who does. You said Windows is more afforable than Linux. Do you know that you can get a Linux CD just by paying for the media and shipping charges? So, how much are you really paying for the OS? Please compare that with Microsoft's OS prices, and you will realize the fact. Also, Linux is tested, being open source, whereas Windows is never fully tested - you come to know about a bug only if Microsoft releases it, or someone else finds it. Still you are not convinced of their monopolistic and stupid practises? Any big company try to acquire or kill it's competitors, so that it can survive and dominate. But not as mercilessly and unethically as Microsoft. They as well tried to kill Java, but thanks to Sun Microsystems and others; they couldn't do that! Being popular and widely used doesnt mean that it is good or the best. Do you know that in the process of doing so many stupid things; they once tried to migrate Hotmail servers to Windows NT from Solaris? They soon have to accept the fact that NT can't do it. Well, we can write a whole book about the evil-doings of Microsoft, and the annonying behaviour of it's OSes. Let me conclude by saying that Linux is here to stay. Go learn it, compare the features, and then come back here to give your feedback. thank you, sisiro -- Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] forwarding in Qmail
by noel seq 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

From: "Tushar Burman" <tb(a)freeos.com> > >Then I have my ~alias/.qmail-default look like this: > >| forward "$LOCAL"@bar.com > >The "$LOCAL" is an environment variable that holds the user part of the >email recipient. > >So in your case, when mail is sent to pqr(a)foo.com, with this setup, it will >be forwarded to pqr(a)bar.com, which is the same as pqr(a)foo.com. This is how >my setups work - 13 so far. No problems. what is this termed as ? mail forwarding ? noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] forwarding in Qmail
by noel seq 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

>From: "Tushar Burman" <tb(a)freeos.com> > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "noel seq" <noelseq(a)hotmail.com> > >Then I have my ~alias/.qmail-default look like this: > >| forward "$LOCAL"@bar.com > >The "$LOCAL" is an environment variable that holds the user part of the >email recipient. > My ~alias/.qmail-default looks like this: forward "$LOCAL"@mail.foo.com this was ok since i had only two pop accounts which were not local and could be forwarded from user(a)mail.foo.co to user(a)foo.com >However, now I use a system similar to yours. I have another domain > >pointing to the same IP on my hosted/colocated server, so user(a)foo.com > >is also user(a)bar.com in my setup. This is different from your setup in > >that no manual forwarding has been done. Every POP box on my server >can >recieve mail for every domain hosted on it. abc(a)foo.com == >abc(a)bar.com == >abc(a)xyz.com. Do you create pop accounts for all users which are not local, on bar.com or do the mails synchronise automatically. This is because i have around 100 pop accounts which are not local. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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please explain Open source & free software
by Harshal Patil 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

hi, could anybody explain me what differences the open source & the free software movements have? i mean both of them give the source code, they allow you to modify, redistribute. then why is this quarrel? -- Registered Linux User #188850 Don't get mad, get Linux! --

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forwarding in Qmail
by noel seq 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

Hi guys, I have a domain foo.com and pop accounts abc(a)foo.com How do i send mail to pqr(a)foo.com . Here pqr is not a user on my local mail server (qmail) but an external user who downloads mail directly from the net from a different location. Earlier i used forwarding of mails for users not found locally, to pqr(a)mail.foo.com, collected the same on the net by creating a sub-domain mail on foo.com, pop accounts pqr for receiving and forwarding the same to their respective accounts. Now, with many new pop accounts being added, is there an alternative and simpler method of forwarding mail for such accounts. Regards, Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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repeated messege
by Nikhil Joshi 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

Sorry guys for getting the why do we hate windows mail twice . Actually I had unsubscribed from my earlier mail address. I guess ilug server still accepted my mail. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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help in finding file in linux
by noel seq 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

>From: ketan shah <coolketone(a)yahoo.com> > >hi, > >in linux how to find from root that any file is in all >directories is there or not.ex suppose i want to find >java file i don't know where it is so how to find it >from root whithout searching in each dirctory. > >bye find / -name abc* HTH noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] help in finding file in linux
by Amish Mehta 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

ketan shah wrote: >how to find it >from root whithout searching in each dirctory. Can you please phrase your query properly. Anyway, please see man pages below. man locate man updatedb man find Amish.

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