Linuxers August 2005

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Maharashtra signs MOU with M$
by Rai, Vivek BGI UK 12 Aug '05

12 Aug '05

> What drives such MOU's anand dear is not what is > more economical for the coffers of the motherland but > rather what the government gets in return for working > along with MS. > So just cause MS software is inferrior and we choose > to use alternatives we have no right to enforce our > decision on others. I am not trying to make a case for > MS or for not purchasing RH. My point is that > companies like MS have far more $$$ to throw about and > bait the ministers/beaureaucrats than most of the > other teeny-meeny FLOSS companies. Was just wondering, what if linux users group from india join hands, and do a PIL (public interest litigation) in some higher court, petioning to force government departments to use commercial, non-open source software only if there is no cheaper alternative available. This may appear far fetched, but that the the only resort a citizen has. And we have many precedences. Look at the previous cases such as enforcing CNG based commercial vehicles in Delhi or Lucknow or whereever else. These were the right decisions to take, but an elected government in India would have never taken. These were enforced by the judiciary upon the governments, and was driven by the citizens like you and me. > And the Software from > Novell-SuSE or RedHat isnt any more cheaper. Try > purchasing a box of RHEL WS and lemme know the best > deal you will get from RedHat India. > I dont think that is true. While commercial GNU/Linux vendors may not be providing their box packs for free, the box packs contain much more than the operating system. For an organization using MS on 100 computers, Microsoft will sell you a license for 100 users and probably charge for 100 copies. You can always buy/download just 1 copy of your favorite Linux Distro, and make as many copies as you want to. You also get the full office suit, developer suits, and other useful utilities. Try getting a quote for MS professional edition with the office suite. > > Why talk about the governments faulty decisions to > spend its rupaiya on Crappy commercial S/W. What about > the total lack of infrastructure around the country > and the basic denial of essential commodities to every > human being within our borders. Lets first address the > more important issues at hand. Arguing about the > governments adoption of FLOSS is not going to take us > anywhere. There are far more important issues to > tackle. No one is claiming that FLOSS is suddenly going to solve all our problems in the coming years. But if Maharastra government is buying 10,000 copies of Windows MS to do word processing and email and browsing tasks, and lets say spending 10,0000 per copy, it had already WASTED 100 MILLION (10 crore) Rupees. 10 crore rupees going out of this country needlessly. 10 Crore rupees that may have been more wisely spent on infrastructure projects, or whatever. And thats just the initial cost, you grow up training a new generation who just learn MS, and would buy more MS when they grow up. >

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Forward DNS request to ISP
by vaibhav samant 12 Aug '05

12 Aug '05

Hello, I have setup a Linux proxy on FC2 with wvdial for internet connection over modem. I have about 5 differenet ISP dialup accounts & depending on connectivity, I keep juggling between the ISPs. The problem is, whenever I swicth the ISP, I have to change the DSN IPs on the desktop too. If I put my Proxy Server's IP address as the DNS on the desktop, then I will not have to keep changing the DNS values on the desktop. Is there any simple way to forward DNS queries (recd from the desktops) to the ISP's DNS Server (allotted dynamically for every connection)? Alternately is it not possible for server (i guess squid) to do all the resolving business and let the desktop live in peace.... Advice / suggestions / pointers are welcome. Vai

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Multiple copies ( my postfix settings)
by Ramang G 12 Aug '05

12 Aug '05

Dear Mr. Kg, My postfix settings are as follows: queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix command_directory = /usr/sbin daemon_directory = /usr/libexec/postfix mail_owner = postfix myhostname = test.xyz.com mydomain = xyz.com myorigin = $myhostname inet_interfaces = all mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost, $mydomain mynetworks = 192.168.1.0/24, 127.0.0.0/8 regards, Ram. ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Windows cellphone (OT)
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 11 Aug '05

11 Aug '05

Windows ce on the intellekt 200 is as bad as the rest of the crap that M$ makes. The phone hung and locked solid. I had to remove the battery to get it working. They forgot to provide a reset switch. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Windows cellphone
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 11 Aug '05

11 Aug '05

On Thursday 11 August 2005 15:14, Dinesh Joshi wrote: > w00t. Linux on a cellphone! Please do let me know how it goes. I > have heard of Linux PDAs and stuff but installing your own flavor > of Linux on a cellphone is rare. There are several cellphones with linux. They are actually cellphone form factor with pda functions or vice versa. There are already linux ports for omap 510 and a cell distro for omap 710. rgds jtd

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Multiple copies
by Ramang G 11 Aug '05

11 Aug '05

Dear All, We have a pop server and forwarding is enabled, and I use fetchmail to downlaod the mails to my local box. The fethmail settings are: poll xyz.com proto pop3 localdomains mydomain.com no dns envelope "Delivered-To" password secret is * here I am able to download and distribute mails, the problem is when marking CC I ger multiple copies of mail. How do I solve this issue? Thanks in advance.. Ram __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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[OT] Re: [OT] Com Port Issue (Kenneth Gonsalves)
by Vickram Crishna 11 Aug '05

11 Aug '05

At 6:23 AM +0530 11/8/05, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: >On Wednesday 10 Aug 2005 10:08 pm, Rony Bill wrote: >> I am in a fix what to believe. > >upload the mouse to the list - we will check out (list admin please, >pretty please, let this one attachment throught) Thank god for genuine humour sans nasty personal cracks on this list at last! -- Vickram

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Windows cellphone
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 11 Aug '05

11 Aug '05

I am the owner of an IQ 200phone. I was gifted this abomination. It has windows ce. The processor is omap 510 a TI variant of ARM with dsp for cellphones. It is a nightmare to use. I suppose that is the windows standard. The hardware is good and would be put to good use if only i could load linux. I am ofcourse planning to do so but wanted to know if anyone on the list has this gizmo, so that i can get it working if things go wrong. rgds jtd

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] C programming in the Linux environment
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 11 Aug '05

11 Aug '05

Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] C programming in the Linux environment >> http://www.cb-india.com/new-dev/BookDetails.asp?BookID=BK00004813&PageRef=B… >But thats the second edition...The latest is the 3rd: >http://www.wrox.com/WileyCDA/WroxTitle/productCd-0764544977,descCd-tableOfC… Ok then I suggest you get this book 'The Time Machine' - HG Wells. Build it and go into India 2010, get it and fly back :) Another saner way would be to write to cbs(a)vsnl.com with a request. If you are lucky and have about 2K to spend, u might get it. (I am assuming no Indian Edition.. coz we don't read) This is a overgrown pet peeve, so pls min the sharp edge of my cynicism... Gishu

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] C programming in the Linux environment
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 11 Aug '05

11 Aug '05

>the Beginning Linux Programming. I had just one question, where do I >purchase it from? Do we have an eastern economy edition for the same? http://www.cb-india.com/new-dev/BookDetails.asp?BookID=BK00004813&PageRef=B… Gishu

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Linuxers August 2005